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  • Androman
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    Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
    Penis pumper Increases IGF

    That's what Lip told me

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    I've also heard wearing anal plugs on a daily helps reduce the risk of prostate cancer


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  • boricuarage79
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    Penis pumper Increases IGF

    That's what Lip told me

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Androman View Post
    that's exactly what I was going to say, AAS do increase igf however it's very minuscule. Quality HGH & camel town IGF is what you want.


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    Yup. You can make great gains on test or tren, or nandrolone. But it's not going to be because of an igf increase.

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  • Androman
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    NPP increase IGF1

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    Yea but in real world igf blood work that increase equates to like 10 points which is nothing. We need hundreds of points increase like GH provides to see a real benefit.


    that's exactly what I was going to say, AAS do increase igf however it's very minuscule. Quality HGH & camel town IGF is what you want.


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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Androman View Post
    Even testosterone can increase IGF1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7690364/


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    Yea but in real world igf blood work that increase equates to like 10 points which is nothing. We need hundreds of points increase like GH provides to see a real benefit.

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  • Androman
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    Even testosterone can increase IGF1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7690364/


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  • Androman
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    The only thing is this study was done on rats


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  • Androman
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    Here is a study on Nandrolone and its effects on IGF https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10642358/


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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
    Well see the thing is Tren can give you that look like no other compound... Hard/ recomp look even if your diet is slightly shit... well from what people have experience anyhow..
    I just notice when on Tren I feel slightly hypo and from what I read it's the compound sucking up all the carbs and you need more carbs to feel stable... Yes it's not.like insulin, but it's such a unique compound that IGF must have a roll in..
    It's would be a great combo with Tren/NPP, maybe I will throw in a low dose in the future...
    Short esters would be wise if sides get out of control

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    I think it's benefits come from the fact that it's such a strong androgen. Something like 7 times stronger then test. I really don't believe it effects igf very much and if it does it nothing crazy like 200-300 points. If it has any effect at all it's going to be like 50 points at most which honestly is nothing in terms of results.

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  • boricuarage79
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Rado and rocket have posted blood work on tren. Their igf was completely normal. So to say "tren increases igf" is not exactly factual. It could be true in some cases but it's not proven science by any means.
    Well see the thing is Tren can give you that look like no other compound... Hard/ recomp look even if your diet is slightly shit... well from what people have experience anyhow..
    I just notice when on Tren I feel slightly hypo and from what I read it's the compound sucking up all the carbs and you need more carbs to feel stable... Yes it's not.like insulin, but it's such a unique compound that IGF must have a roll in..
    It's would be a great combo with Tren/NPP, maybe I will throw in a low dose in the future...
    Short esters would be wise if sides get out of control

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
    It's specifically saying nandrolone phenylpropionate. Deca does the same obviously since it's a 19 Nor as well...

    Tren increases IGF as well, maybe @ a faster rate than Nadrolone, but I like to think of it as a cleaner version of tren...

    Obviously is not going to.increase it as high as GH, but it still does increase IGF...

    Maybe I can do an IGF test and see how high it is, but I don't know if I can do that from my house Doc

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    Rado and rocket have posted blood work on tren. Their igf was completely normal. So to say "tren increases igf" is not exactly factual. It could be true in some cases but it's not proven science by any means.

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  • boricuarage79
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    But then again, fuck all those test.. I go by how I look and feel... week.2 I should start getting really nice results

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  • boricuarage79
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    It's specifically saying nandrolone phenylpropionate. Deca does the same obviously since it's a 19 Nor as well...

    Tren increases IGF as well, maybe @ a faster rate than Nadrolone, but I like to think of it as a cleaner version of tren...

    Obviously is not going to.increase it as high as GH, but it still does increase IGF...

    Maybe I can do an IGF test and see how high it is, but I don't know if I can do that from my house Doc

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  • Bouncer
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    its saying nandrolone not NPP specifically. so deca would be included in that as well.

    thing is though... by how much is the question? people have posted blood work on deca or tren with normal igf levels so its important not to take this out of context. its not going to raise igf levels even remotely close to what GH can do.

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  • boricuarage79
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    I can only imagine NPP combined with Tren ACE... a godsend!!
    Caber Up like a mofo

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