Gas May Soon Cost $7 and $10 a gallon...

[Bouncer]

please do us all a favor and never talk about politics again... YOU IDIOT!

:rofl:

[Shibby]

Before everyone gets their posses together- read his proposal. His "tax breaks" will be for the true middle class- those earning $75k or less. There would be $1000 tax break at the end of the year for these people. Secondly- his tax would basically raise the SOCIAL SECURITY tax bracket from the current $97,500 PER PERSON to $102, 000. That's a whopping $5k. So, utimately you will have to make over $200K for you to really see an impact.

But, what people aren't saying here is why he proposes to raise the Social Security tax bracket- If he doesn't- Social Security will have run out by 2017. So, all the money WE have put into Social Security all these years- we won't see a penny of it when it's time for us to retire.

And, I agree that the rich shouldn't have to give to the middle class, or poor. But, that's really not what's happening here. What you are angry about- Lebron James & like a principal of a school paying the same amount of taxes- is what he's trying to eliminate.

Am I understanding this right? Is it just me or does a $1000 tax break just seem like a mockery. I make less than 50k and that wouldn't do shit to improve my life. How would someone making 75k+ going to be impressed by this? Take that 1k from everyone and do something good for the country and I think it would make a much bigger difference in everyone's life.

[toolwtf]

what a bunch of fucking bullshit. if you combine all the current taxes we are taxed at about %60 of our income fuckhead. how much more are you going to squeeze out of the middle class? the government is terrible at spending money they abuse the fuck out of it. how can you have a problem with Iraq and not all the other government waste - entitlement programs (only about %30 of the money for welware actually goes to the individual), buerocrats, government salaries, size of government. NASA had a billion dollar project where they collided a rocket with a meteor. it was fucking cool buy you cant say ones a waste and another isnt. we had a trillion dollar defict since as long as i can remember before both bush or clinton.

please do us all a favor and never talk about politics again... YOU IDIOT!

[redsquirrel]

I completely disagree with the government saying that the families that make over $100K are rich. What a load of crap! My hubby and I make that and we still budget our money. I don't own extravagant clothes or jewelry. I drive a nice car, but it's not a Mercedes or BMW or anything close to that. I don't for one second consider myself "rich" or in the upper class.

I hate the take from the "rich" and give to the "middle class" political mentality. Why should I have to fund someone elses being? We both work hard for every penny we have.

The other thing that needs to be changed is tax brackets. Seeing that any american who pulls in $500K a year is taxed EQUALLY to like a LeBron James who pulls in $30M a year is CRAZY.... or like a Tiger Woods or a Bill Gates. Think of that.

As for gas prices, eventually they have to hit a ceiling because once everyone stops being able to afford it, the demand will completely fall and the majority of consumers won't be driving like they were and will be buying a lot less. Today we were at $3.93 here in Cleveland.

Before everyone gets their posses together- read his proposal. His "tax breaks" will be for the true middle class- those earning $75k or less. There would be $1000 tax break at the end of the year for these people. Secondly- his tax would basically raise the SOCIAL SECURITY tax bracket from the current $97,500 PER PERSON to $102, 000. That's a whopping $5k. So, utimately you will have to make over $200K for you to really see an impact.

But, what people aren't saying here is why he proposes to raise the Social Security tax bracket- If he doesn't- Social Security will have run out by 2017. So, all the money WE have put into Social Security all these years- we won't see a penny of it when it's time for us to retire.

And, I agree that the rich shouldn't have to give to the middle class, or poor. But, that's really not what's happening here. What you are angry about- Lebron James & like a principal of a school paying the same amount of taxes- is what he's trying to eliminate.

[redsquirrel]

you wont even get that if you try to sell it. do it now while it still has some value to it. gas prices will continue to rise and your trucks value will drop faster then ever. you are in a now or never situation. the longer you keep the truck the bigger the problem you have.

That's EXACTLY what we are thankful for. Had we waited just 3 weeks to sell the diesel, we wouldn't have even gotten anywhere close to what was owed.

[dreamgirl]

I completely disagree with the government saying that the families that make over $100K are rich. What a load of crap! My hubby and I make that and we still budget our money. I don't own extravagant clothes or jewelry. I drive a nice car, but it's not a Mercedes or BMW or anything close to that. I don't for one second consider myself "rich" or in the upper class.

I hate the take from the "rich" and give to the "middle class" political mentality. Why should I have to fund someone elses being? We both work hard for every penny we have.

The other thing that needs to be changed is tax brackets. Seeing that any american who pulls in $500K a year is taxed EQUALLY to like a LeBron James who pulls in $30M a year is CRAZY.... or like a Tiger Woods or a Bill Gates. Think of that.

As for gas prices, eventually they have to hit a ceiling because once everyone stops being able to afford it, the demand will completely fall and the majority of consumers won't be driving like they were and will be buying a lot less. Today we were at $3.93 here in Cleveland.

[redsquirrel]

what a bunch of fucking bullshit. if you combine all the current taxes we are taxed at about %60 of our income fuckhead. how much more are you going to squeeze out of the middle class? the government is terrible at spending money they abuse the fuck out of it. how can you have a problem with Iraq and not all the other government waste - entitlement programs (only about %30 of the money for welware actually goes to the individual), buerocrats, government salaries, size of government. NASA had a billion dollar project where they collided a rocket with a meteor. it was fucking cool buy you cant say ones a waste and another isnt. we had a trillion dollar defict since as long as i can remember before both bush or clinton.

Actually, Clinton completely erased the deficit George Sr. had left for him. Think back to whenever you can remember a trillion dollar deficit. Can you actually say those were good economic times? I think not. Think back to the 70's when there was another fuel scare and surge in price. Think back to the early 80's when people were paying 12 & 14% on their mortgage rates. Or how about Black Monday??? Deficits make the dollar weaker, and inflation higher. Sorry, I just don't see how having a trillion dollar deficit should be an accepted idea.

People have a problem with the Iraq war because of the over $12 BILLION PER MONTH it takes to maintain our presence there. Entitlement programs, & government salaries don't come anywhere CLOSE to what we are paying daily for this war. No one is saying there isn't other government waste. However, the cost of the Iraq war far outweighs any other government program cost. At least some of those government programs are for US citizens. We have allowed our government to spend $720 billion dollars for something that offers absolutely no benefit to our society. Yet we have done very little to protest this spending. So, BIG deal about government programs and salaries.

[Bouncer]

I will get crap for it though. :hang:

you wont even get that if you try to sell it. do it now while it still has some value to it. gas prices will continue to rise and your trucks value will drop faster then ever. you are in a now or never situation. the longer you keep the truck the bigger the problem you have.

[Megiddo]

I'm in the same bind many people are faced with - business is slow, so money is crap. I can't "give" my truck away and then be forced to buy something else - I can't afford to do that. I'm not willing to risk buying a piece of junk, and then having repairs every month that I can't afford.

If I tried to take the bus to work, I'd end up spending as much in fares as I do in gas - and it would probably take me hours to get there.

Now I know all of these sound like excuses to you - but the fact that I'm "all of a sudden" in this bind because of gas prices is incredibly hard to adapt to in a short amount of time.

I feel your pain FB. I started my lawn business last year, at the wrong time. Fuel costs have set me back from upgrading my equipment to handle larger properties which means less income.

[FitnessBrat]

well then that is definitely what i would do then. trade it in for a car at the dealership.

I will get crap for it though. :hang:

[NewbieChris]

what a bunch of fucking bullshit. if you combine all the current taxes we are taxed at about %60 of our income fuckhead. how much more are you going to squeeze out of the middle class? the government is terrible at spending money they abuse the fuck out of it. how can you have a problem with Iraq and not all the other government waste - entitlement programs (only about %30 of the money for welware actually goes to the individual), buerocrats, government salaries, size of government. NASA had a billion dollar project where they collided a rocket with a meteor. it was fucking cool buy you cant say ones a waste and another isnt. we had a trillion dollar defict since as long as i can remember before both bush or clinton.

First off, Clinton eliminated the deficit by sticking to his guns and holding to the 'pay as you go' act. However, government deficits have mainly only developed since WW2. I think Roosevelt actually apologized to the country for running a deficit. There is a way to get us out of deficit if we really wanted to, but Bush is too much of an idiot to do it. I agree it is completely disgusting.

[Bouncer]

by the way, have you seen the new dodge commercials, if you buy a new dodge truck you are guaranteed $2.99 gas for 3 years. lol.

[Bouncer]

Nope, it's paid off.

well then that is definitely what i would do then. trade it in for a car at the dealership.

[FitnessBrat]

your still making payments on that truck aren't you FB? i was going to say, take it to a dealership and trade it in for something like an Accord or some shit.

Nope, it's paid off.

[Bouncer]

your still making payments on that truck aren't you FB? i was going to say, take it to a dealership and trade it in for something like an Accord or some shit.