Kid kills himself live on a webcam on BB.com

[Bouncer]

all jokes aside, i do see both sides here. sometimes chris can make a post that seems a bit "i am smarter then you" but he almost always explains himself and apologizes if he made anyone feel that way.

[Bouncer]

hey newbiechris.. kill yourself. :D

[NewbieChris]

What does that mean? Explain to me how your comments were sensitive

Again, just based on your post you sometimes can come off really pompous and patronizing.

Listen, I understand you are really young, but you really need to learn to have empathy for people. You have no idea what that poor kid was going through to make him do that. Adolescence is one of the most difficult times in anyone's life. Just becuase you may not agree or have the capacity to understand how horrible someone thinks their life is, really doesn't warrant insensitivity.

True- suicide is extremely selfish. However, based on the poor kid's suicide note, there was very little hope from bringing him back from whatever had happened to him with all of the hate and rage that's in his letter. You weren't in his head. You didn't wake up everyday and feel completely useless and disappointed with your life, and feel you have no control in changing it.

Lastly, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with "society progressing passed this". WTF does this have to do with society??? The only thing society has to do with this kids death is the PRESSURE society creates. So, until society stops creating so much pressure, isn't it a little naive and unrealistic to say that society needs to move past it????

Maybe you should stop reading my posts then, because they are far from pompous and patronizing. Maybe you read them that way because you have conditioned yourself to feel that way about me? Not to mention, when ever you respond to a post of mine, it is condescending. The same foes for Fitnessbrat. I just think its ironic that you two talk about sensitivity, when you clearly don't give some people that same respect.

You don't know me, so you don't expect you to understand when I say i have been disappointed in myself. Or for that matter how I feel about this situation. Being a moderator at a forum, I become disgusted with these type of circumstances. Its actually the reason I am a moderator now. I have long been a vocal advocate of anonymous internet posting being a problem. People on our forum used to rip people apart for no reason. Its terrible. There was little attention paid to these type of circumstances and I really pushed the moderators, because they were all ignoring it as a problem.

Finally, society has to do with this in every way. From expectations that our society expects, to the way some people treat others. It is not the soul responsibility of society, it is also the responsibility of the individuals in society, that make up society. You can disagree with me all you want, that's fine. Just stop jumping down my throat because you think you know so much more about life than i do. Its getting old.

[curtus e flush]

Everyone that egged him on has blood on their hands. Cry wolf or not he was screaming for help!!!!! Not to be belittled. And as for Roxie.....she's a POS! As a Mod she should have shut it down, not bad mouth the kid as an attn whore along with all of the other assholes.

God Bless the kid and may God forgive those that egged him on. Id hate to live with blood on my hands....

gator

well said gator....may he rest in peace

[Timber]

no body did anything illegal, It is however a moral issue

[NYCmitch25]

yep.

“You want to kill yourself?” one said. “Do it, do the world a favour and stop wasting our time with your mindless self-pity.” - a bit harsh.

Does anyone think the argument could be made for manslaughter or some other criminal charge to the ppl commenting?

[Gator_Mclusky]

Everyone that egged him on has blood on their hands. Cry wolf or not he was screaming for help!!!!! Not to be belittled. And as for Roxie.....she's a POS! As a Mod she should have shut it down, not bad mouth the kid as an attn whore along with all of the other assholes.

God Bless the kid and may God forgive those that egged him on. Id hate to live with blood on my hands....

gator

[Gator_Mclusky]

Everyone that egged him on has blood on their hands. Cry wolf or not he was screaming for help!!!!! Not to be belittled. And as for Roxie.....she's a POS! As a Mod she should have shut it down, not bad mouth the kid as an attn whore along with all of the other assholes.

God Bless the kid and may God forgive those that egged him on. Id hate to live with blood on my hands....

gator

[Timber]

I just saw people talking about it this morning over there. I find it disturbing that is happened but I don't really know how you censer that shit. Our freedom of expression in this country opens the door for people to do something like this. It is just sad and tragic for those left behind

[redsquirrel]

All while talking about sensitivity.

What does that mean? Explain to me how your comments were sensitive

Again, just based on your post you sometimes can come off really pompous and patronizing.

Listen, I understand you are really young, but you really need to learn to have empathy for people. You have no idea what that poor kid was going through to make him do that. Adolescence is one of the most difficult times in anyone's life. Just becuase you may not agree or have the capacity to understand how horrible someone thinks their life is, really doesn't warrant insensitivity.

True- suicide is extremely selfish. However, based on the poor kid's suicide note, there was very little hope from bringing him back from whatever had happened to him with all of the hate and rage that's in his letter. You weren't in his head. You didn't wake up everyday and feel completely useless and disappointed with your life, and feel you have no control in changing it.

Lastly, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with "society progressing passed this". WTF does this have to do with society??? The only thing society has to do with this kids death is the PRESSURE society creates. So, until society stops creating so much pressure, isn't it a little naive and unrealistic to say that society needs to move past it????

[blm]

A Florida teen who intentionally overdosed streamed his death on the Internet while it occurred Wednesday.
Others watched online as 19-year-old Abraham Biggs Jr. died. The Broward County Medical Examiner's Office told The Miami Herald that he took a deadly mixture of prescription drugs.

Media reports and comments on discussion boards -- including some posts from those who claimed to have witnessed the incident -- vary on whether Biggs actually ingested the drugs on camera. Accounts also vary as to whether people may have encouraged him to kill himself.
While some members of online discussion boards posted chat messages showing that at least one person encouraged Biggs, the timestamp and corresponding video archives seem to indicate that it was after Biggs fell unconscious or died.

Justin.tv, the forum where Biggs streamed the incident, has deleted video and the related string of comments. Other sites still hosted silent video Friday that showed Biggs lying motionless in a fetal position on his bed, with his back facing the camera, as police discovered the body and blocked the camera.

Several discussion board members posted conversations indicating that people on the live forum thought it was a hoax. Then, some members grew concerned that Biggs was really dead. Members of the discussion board tracked Biggs down, attempted to contact him, and then called police, according to discussion strings they posted on other sites.

Online acquaintances posted what they claimed to be a suicide note from Biggs' online account. One report stated that he posted the note on MySpace six days before he died. Others indicated that he cut and pasted the note onto discussion forums after he started a miscellaneous string to state that he had taken lethal amounts of prescription drugs.

Other people have streamed their suicides and plotted suicide with others online. Suicide is illegal in many places and those who attempt it but fail can face prosecution. Posting video of a suicide is not generally a criminal offense, although it violates terms of use on sites like Justin.tv, which ban inappropriate and violent content. However, that site and others like it rely on users to report inappropriate content, making it impossible in some cases to prevent live footage. In New York state, anyone who advises someone to commit suicide can be charged with manslaughter.

The Broward County Medical Examiner's Office confirmed in statements to The Miami Herald that Biggs blogged around 3 a.m. and at some point stated that he had taken lethal doses of prescription drugs and posted a link to his Webcam and told people they could watch live footage of his death. Pembroke Pines Police arrived around 3:30 p.m. They are continuing to investigate the incident.

[Bouncer]

Horror as teenager commits suicide live online - Times Online

[NewbieChris]

And to say that society can't progress beyond this makes little sense to me. Suicide isn't a fad - it's always been around, and it will always continue to be.

All while talking about sensitivity.

[Bouncer]

Until you know what it feels like to think you'd be better off not waking tomorrow, then I don't think you can judge. I think this kid was screaming for attention and nobody was giving him what he needed. Maybe he "cried wolf" too many times, who knows - it's still unfortunate he didn't get the help he needed. But as tough as this board can be, I'd sure as hell like to think that our members would be more sensitive to a situation like that. I can't imagine the grief his family has to live with right now, with so many unanswered questions and guilt.

And to say that society can't progress beyond this makes little sense to me. Suicide isn't a fad - it's always been around, and it will always continue to be.

agreed.

something i have worked on over the last few years is judging people. i try hard not to judge anyone.

[FitnessBrat]

Until you know what it feels like to think you'd be better off not waking tomorrow, then I don't think you can judge. I think this kid was screaming for attention and nobody was giving him what he needed. Maybe he "cried wolf" too many times, who knows - it's still unfortunate he didn't get the help he needed. But as tough as this board can be, I'd sure as hell like to think that our members would be more sensitive to a situation like that. I can't imagine the grief his family has to live with right now, with so many unanswered questions and guilt.

And to say that society can't progress beyond this makes little sense to me. Suicide isn't a fad - it's always been around, and it will always continue to be.