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So I guess every time you see an Irish guy in a train station, you make sure he's not placing a bomb?
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bullshit.Originally posted by decadecadeca View PostThe McVeigh excuse always shows up in threads like these. It fails completely if you look at acts of terrorism on our nation in total. It may not be popular to say but the statistics are there if you really want to see them.
Mcveigh
Anti-war activists in the 60's and 70's
Animial rights activists in the 80's
Eco-terrorsits in the 80-90's
Abortion clinic bombings/assassinations
Washington Sniper. (ex-military)
Uni-bomber
Olympics bomber (ex-military as well, first of four attacks by him)
I think you could make an argument for Ruby Ridge and Waco here too.
I think you're talking out of your ass when you mention statistics, or can you find me a peer-edited article with a difinitive analysis of all domestic american terrorism in say, the last 50 years. Shit, the last 30 years.
Your attitude is not born out by the facts, but rather a latent rascism which masquerades as 'common sense' It is the sort of attitude which leads to the persecution of innocent people in elementary school washrooms. The fact that people refuse to think independantly, even a little bit about this is a testament to how ugly hate, fear, and ignorance can make human nature.Last edited by mindstar; 01-23-09, 07:52 PM.
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yeah decadeca got it right,
over here i the london burbs there are always loads of stabbings usually black on black sometimes black on white but hardly ever a white person stabbing someone else. So police starts operating stop and search and gues what they stop more black people, the black guys start kicking off and cry racism and so the police are told to back off or risk race riots, then after a while knife crime goes up again and the whole cycle starts again!
Its a tricky one
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Originally posted by decadecadeca View PostThe McVeigh excuse always shows up in threads like these. It fails completely if you look at acts of terrorism on our nation in total. It may not be popular to say but the statistics are there if you really want to see them.
It's no different than being more aware if a group of black teenagers are following you. Reported statistics show they are more likely to commit a crime. That is doubly true if you are a young black male, as black on black crime is almost ten times more likely than white on black crime.
I don't think it's ever wrong to follow your instincts. I may not have confronted the guy so bluntly but I would have followed him and made small talk until I was comfortable with the situation. More than one way to skin a cat after all and subtlety has it's place.
If you're looking for a crack dealer he's probably black, looking for a serial killer he's probably white, looking for a shoplifter it's probably a female, looking for a terrorist he's probably muslim, etc.....
Not at all politically correct but the numbers don't lie.
Wow, two times in one day that I agree with you.
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Originally posted by mindstar View Posthow would you feel if the tables were turned. Remeber Tim McVeigh, he was a white guy and responsible for the second largest act of terror on American soil. And yet, white, ex-military guys don't draw the same kind of interest that visible minorities do. That's called rascism. Plus, I'm guessing you outweighed him by quite a bit and probably frightened him.
He did nothing wrong, you did. I hope you appologised.
The McVeigh excuse always shows up in threads like these. It fails completely if you look at acts of terrorism on our nation in total. It may not be popular to say but the statistics are there if you really want to see them.
It's no different than being more aware if a group of black teenagers are following you. Reported statistics show they are more likely to commit a crime. That is doubly true if you are a young black male, as black on black crime is almost ten times more likely than white on black crime.
I don't think it's ever wrong to follow your instincts. I may not have confronted the guy so bluntly but I would have followed him and made small talk until I was comfortable with the situation. More than one way to skin a cat after all and subtlety has it's place.
If you're looking for a crack dealer he's probably black, looking for a serial killer he's probably white, looking for a shoplifter it's probably a female, looking for a terrorist he's probably muslim, etc.....
Not at all politically correct but the numbers don't lie.
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how would you feel if the tables were turned. Remeber Tim McVeigh, he was a white guy and responsible for the second largest act of terror on American soil. And yet, white, ex-military guys don't draw the same kind of interest that visible minorities do. That's called rascism. Plus, I'm guessing you outweighed him by quite a bit and probably frightened him.
He did nothing wrong, you did. I hope you appologised.
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I would agree some of them do some stupid shit. My girl is lebaneses and both her brothers have done time for the stupidest reasons. They are very proud people and tend to be slightly unhinged. Unfortunately these few give the rest a bad name. Not all arabs are muslims either. They all have very defferent beliefs.Originally posted by FrankTheTank55 View PostI met this girl the other day, maybe one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen. Well, she is from Israel. She works at the mall and I deliver the mail to all the stores in the mall. So at first she tried to sell me some freakin hand lotion. We started talking and everyday for the past week or so we talk and just kinda hang out while I take a "break". But the whole time im talking to her Im wondering if everything she is saying to me is a lie, and why is she really here in this country and all kinds of crazy shit. There are alot of arabs where I live and it seams like there is always something shady about them. I know its wrong but the truth is they do stuid shit. So you have to keep your guard up.
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you did the right thing....lets say something did go down and you never checked it out
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I met this girl the other day, maybe one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen. Well, she is from Israel. She works at the mall and I deliver the mail to all the stores in the mall. So at first she tried to sell me some freakin hand lotion. We started talking and everyday for the past week or so we talk and just kinda hang out while I take a "break". But the whole time im talking to her Im wondering if everything she is saying to me is a lie, and why is she really here in this country and all kinds of crazy shit. There are alot of arabs where I live and it seams like there is always something shady about them. I know its wrong but the truth is they do stuid shit. So you have to keep your guard up.
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Originally posted by bigscott View Postmy family is there a couple of strange acting arabs -- right in my book -- too bad they didnt do that on 9/11
I understand the care to protect your family, you have every right to do so. BUT just because he was an 'Arab' doesn't mean he had a bomb strapped to his chest.
I have noticed my family doing things similar, if not STUPIDER, just pointing the wrong way gives people the wrong impression.
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exactley -- i watched it for a bit and didnt like it - most people are very passive in life and those people end up flying into buildings --would have noticed it no matter the type of person - just stuck out more cause he was arab and facts are we take a longer look at someone of arab descent since 9/11 i make no appoligies for my actions -- my familys safety comes first - if i dont like something i am not shy about letting one know !!Originally posted by Shibby View PostIf you wouldn't have said it was an arab guy I still would have thought the actions were weird. Why would one guy be sitting there if they can't find a kid.Last edited by bigscott; 01-22-09, 08:48 PM.
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If you wouldn't have said it was an arab guy I still would have thought the actions were weird. Why would one guy be sitting there if they can't find a kid.
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