Fucking Australia and guns.....

[Bouncer]

Oh we are talking about rape now? I thought the issue was mass shootings?

Nothing wrong with raping bitches.

we are talking about violent crime sharply rising after people were disarmed and no longer had the ability to defend themselves against criminals who never gave up their weapons because umm... they are criminals..

you want to disarm people who have done nothing. people that follow the law.

we all want horrible crimes including mass shootings to stop. but taking away the rights of good people is not the American way. we are the most powerful country the world has ever seen. clearly the American way is better then you'd ever like to admit. America's fundamental rights have been an amazing success despite the side effects that comes with people abusing those rights.

[Bouncer]

Oh hey we are Americans and we have mass shooting every day but we aren't gonna do jack shit about it. lol. America Fuck yeh!

"hey I'm an Australian and I'd like to strip law abiding citizens of their rights because of the acts of a few nuts".

And yes the word "few" is correct in comparison with the number of legal gun owners who never commit a crime.

There will always be people who abuse rights and freedoms. Those people should not dictate what happens to those who do not abuse those rights.

[A$AP]

Chuck coming in with the facts.

[redback]

Oh hey we are Americans and we have mass shooting every day but we aren't gonna do jack shit about it. lol. America Fuck yeh!

[redback]

Violent crime and rape sharply rose after their gun laws went into effect.

Traded one crime for another. Fixed nothing. People's lives are still destroyed every day in Australia by violent criminals. Not by knives, not by bombs, not by guns, not by terrorist... By people. That is the common denominator.

Anyone who can't see this has the IQ of an aardvark. These types read the headlines but never the fine print.

Oh we are talking about rape now? I thought the issue was mass shootings?

Nothing wrong with raping bitches.

[redback]

naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

I didn't even hear about it until you posted it but its like out worst mass shooting in like fucking 100 years and it was like 7 people. lol.

[Bouncer]

naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

Violent crime and rape sharply rose after their gun laws went into effect.

Traded one crime for another. Fixed nothing. People's lives are still destroyed every day in Australia by violent criminals. Not by knives, not by bombs, not by guns, not by terrorist... By people. That is the common denominator.

Anyone who can't see this has the IQ of an aardvark. These types read the headlines but never the fine print.

[lipripper]

rip i thought you were burnt out on gun talk? didn't i tell you you'd be right back to it after your vacation? lol

naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

[Bouncer]

rip i thought you were burnt out on gun talk? didn't i tell you you'd be right back to it after your vacation? lol

[lipripper]

Multiple sources


Australian institute of Criminology
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

Australian criminal intelligence commission
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/file...f?v=1476249461


SSRN research https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....ract_id=272929

Crime research
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/co...us-and-europe/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/mo...ass-shootings/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/02/wi...united-states/

Boom!! Chuck!!!!?


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[chuckz28]

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

Multiple sources


Australian institute of Criminology
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

Australian criminal intelligence commission
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/file...f?v=1476249461


SSRN research https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....ract_id=272929

Crime research
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/co...us-and-europe/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/mo...ass-shootings/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/02/wi...united-states/

[lipripper]

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

Evil that's in people pretty simple

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[redback]

How about some real facts about Australia and how the US compares


In Australia, firearm homicides and suicides were falling from the mid-1980s onwards, so you could pick out any subsequent year and the average firearm homicide and suicide rates after that year would be down compared to the average before it.

The question is whether the rate of decline changed after the gun buyback law went into effect. But the decline in firearm homicides and suicides actually slowed down after the buyback.

Australia’s buyback resulted in almost 1 million guns being handed in and destroyed, but after that private gun ownership once again steadily increased and NOW EXCEEDS what it was before the buyback.

In fact, since 1997 gun ownership in Australia grew over three times faster than the population (from 2.5 million to 5.8 million guns).

For other crimes, such as armed robbery, what happened is the exact opposite of what was predicted. The armed robbery rate soared right after the gun buyback, then gradually declined.

European countries such as Belgium, France and the Netherlands have even stricter gun control laws than Australia does, but their mass public shooting rates are at least as high as those in the United States.

During the Obama administration, the per capita casualty rate from shootings in the European Union was actually 27 percent higher than the U.S. rate.


Norway is #1, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million . No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."

"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

[chuckz28]

How about some real facts about Australia and how the US compares


In Australia, firearm homicides and suicides were falling from the mid-1980s onwards, so you could pick out any subsequent year and the average firearm homicide and suicide rates after that year would be down compared to the average before it.

The question is whether the rate of decline changed after the gun buyback law went into effect. But the decline in firearm homicides and suicides actually slowed down after the buyback.

Australia’s buyback resulted in almost 1 million guns being handed in and destroyed, but after that private gun ownership once again steadily increased and NOW EXCEEDS what it was before the buyback.

In fact, since 1997 gun ownership in Australia grew over three times faster than the population (from 2.5 million to 5.8 million guns).

For other crimes, such as armed robbery, what happened is the exact opposite of what was predicted. The armed robbery rate soared right after the gun buyback, then gradually declined.

European countries such as Belgium, France and the Netherlands have even stricter gun control laws than Australia does, but their mass public shooting rates are at least as high as those in the United States.

During the Obama administration, the per capita casualty rate from shootings in the European Union was actually 27 percent higher than the U.S. rate.


Norway is #1, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million . No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."

"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."

[lipripper]

I think you are the one blind. I have NEVER said we don't have gun crime. Of course we have gun crime.

My argument is that since the gun laws were put in place our gun crime and mass shootings decreased. It made it much harder for criminals to get their hands on them.

How can that possibly be a bad thing?

It's not...for criminals....but to impede law abiding citizens the right is...that's my point you refuse to see or accept. I want criminals not to have guns yet you don't see that

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