Belgium attacker stabs 2 cops, shoots them with their own guns

[Bouncer]

All the people who are protesting excessive police force.

Why do they keep complaining? Why won't they just pay their taxes, keep their mouths shut and take their beatings quietly and say please sir, may I have another? Oh for the good old days when everyone knew their place and if someone got a thrashing, it's only because they deserved it. First it was the blacks in the sixties, then women in the seventies, then gays, and now even the mentally retarded want to be treated with dignity. Because as we all know, the aspirational ideals that this country was built on have automatically been conferred in egalitarian fashion to all, no reflection needed.

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agree with your point 100%. not arguing injustice and peoples right to protest.

what i'm specifically talking about is people on social media, tv etc.. that have never experienced any sort of injustice from the police but they have bought into the trend of "fuck the police". these type of people are followers, they have no mind of their own and they simply follow a trend. these sissies who get online and talk shit about police yet they wouldn't hesitate to call the police for help. it's because that specific group of social media people don't actually believe what they speak about the police because they have never experienced any injustice from the police.

[Scrumhalf]

who is "they"? i'm curious.

All the people who are protesting excessive police force.

Why do they keep complaining? Why won't they just pay their taxes, keep their mouths shut and take their beatings quietly and say please sir, may I have another? Oh for the good old days when everyone knew their place and if someone got a thrashing, it's only because they deserved it. First it was the blacks in the sixties, then women in the seventies, then gays, and now even the mentally retarded want to be treated with dignity. Because as we all know, the aspirational ideals that this country was built on have automatically been conferred in egalitarian fashion to all, no reflection needed.

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[Bouncer]

you know that they have a point.

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who is "they"? i'm curious. i brought up race because you sounded exactly like the classic line in the movie i linked.

"what do you mean you people!" lmao.

[Scrumhalf]

Did I bring up race even once? I only talked about mental health. Looks like you are the one who has race on your mind because deep down, you know that they have a point.

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[Bouncer]

Who are "these people" you are talking about? I am curious.

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anyone that has nothing but negative things to say about the police but would call the police for help as soon as they need help. if they are so horrible and dangerous why would you trust them enough to call for help?

you are always looking for some racist angle it's hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1iV24hL8Rk

[Scrumhalf]

Who are "these people" you are talking about? I am curious.

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[Bouncer]

well said. and the same people that shit on the cops day in and day out will be the very first people to call the police for help if shit ever goes down.

i'm not saying cops aren't allowed to be criticized for bad deeds. they definitely should be, especially when they shoot someone in the back and shit like that. but these people take it way too far and seem to believe that all cops are horrible people.

[lipripper]

Funny how people expect cops to be perfect in every situation that may threaten their lives or others in the area...but most people criticizing their action have never been in any type of situation where they have to make a life or death decision in an instant..and then have to live with that decision the rest of their lives.. Yet people are so fast to criticize their actions...pretty sad.

[Bouncer]

Cops have little to no training de-escalating a medical crisis situation. For example, an autistic guy was shot because cops didn't recognize or understand how to calm the guy down and get him neutralized safely. Nobody is saying that cops need to be therapists, but recognizing and tactically dealing with mental health issues without the need for lethal force should be required training.

Especially in this country where the medical safety meet is non existent and a lot of people with mental health problems end up on the street with no medication on treatment.

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you know most cops also have very little firearm and shooting training compared to what you might assume. they only have to practice and re-qualify minimally. i have gotten to know a few instructors at various ranges and they tell me stories about how cops come to the range all the time saying "this gun i bought isn't accurate" because they cant hit the paper targets accurately. instructor tests the gun and shoots a perfect little group center mass. instructor told me he would only consider about 25% of the cops that he deals with in training and classes to be up to par with what he thinks they should be. the ones that are up to par are generally enthusiast that are at the range even in their free time. sad and scary.

[Scrumhalf]

So cops also need to go to school to become a psychiatrist too? I don't know the situation that scrum is talking about but if you have a weapon that can kill and you step in the direction of a cop you should be shot.

Cops have little to no training de-escalating a medical crisis situation. For example, an autistic guy was shot because cops didn't recognize or understand how to calm the guy down and get him neutralized safely. Nobody is saying that cops need to be therapists, but recognizing and tactically dealing with mental health issues without the need for lethal force should be required training.

Especially in this country where the medical safety meet is non existent and a lot of people with mental health problems end up on the street with no medication on treatment.

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[Bouncer]

Call me a pussy but I feel the pic is disrespectful to the families. Maybe a warning in the title.

i'd agree in general if we were a world news organization or some shit. but this story is so big that the link to this page from google is probably on page 10,000 of the google search results. The chance of the family or friends seeing this page on SM is very low.

[redback]

Call me a pussy but I feel the pic is disrespectful to the families. Maybe a warning in the title.

[boricuarage79]

Dude was a ninja

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[Chadd77]

So cops also need to go to school to become a psychiatrist too? I don't know the situation that scrum is talking about but if you have a weapon that can kill and you step in the direction of a cop you should be shot.

[Bouncer]

That's what cops in Oregon decided when they lit up a guy with a knife who was having a mental health crisis. When you have a shoot first approach in every situation, bad things happen, especially when they get zero training to deal with people having mental health issues.

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If someone is just holding a knife and not an immediate threat to someones life then you don't shoot. But if someone is about to kill someone with that knife you light that fucker up... "mental health crises" be damned.

Having a mental issue doesn't give you a pass to murder the innocent.

But yes, cops that are just trigger happy can be an issue.