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Old 06-11-04, 07:01 PM
nolvadex is getting me ripped!
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Will someone explain to me why I am getting so ripped at the end of my cycle. I am a straight mesomorph so I don't have a particularly fast or slow metabolism. I look way better now than I did on my last shot day 6 weeks ago. I ran 10,000iu of hcg in divided doses and used nolvadex at 60mg per day for the first three weeks with a couple of doses of 1mg armidex twice per week. I now am running just nolva at about 30mg per day and I have never looked leaner or harder. I heard that nolvadex has some fat burning properties. can anyone explain?
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also I got some proviron coming in the mail for my bridge.
what dose and on/off schedule should I use. I love that shit
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Old 06-11-04, 07:20 PM
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Probably cause estrogen causes the body to retain more fat and water. Now that you're suppressing it, you're seeing the results.
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Old 06-11-04, 07:53 PM
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agreed. the water retention is gone and now you are ''seeing'' your gains.


or your nolva is really t-3:eek: j/k
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Old 06-11-04, 10:22 PM
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Probably cause estrogen causes the body to retain more fat and water. Now that you're suppressing it, you're seeing the results.
well novladex doesn't suppress estrogen it is a SERM. so it blocks the effects. you are probably looking leaner just from a general water lose.
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Old 06-11-04, 10:39 PM
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water loss bro. just enjoy it.
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Old 06-12-04, 02:18 AM
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the tamoxifen is just magic ....ha ha sounds like you have some good gains .....keep up the good work eat well train harder
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Old 06-25-04, 02:10 AM
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he also said he's using 1mg, twice per week of arimidex. so he's blocking conversion too, so he's really leaning out.

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Old 06-25-04, 04:12 PM
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i believe it. i love results on a winny nolvadex cycle, although i am very lean to start
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the same thing happens to me bro when I take nolva, I come off a cycle pretty ripped but then when I start takeing the nolva It seems to make me realy hungry and I just get shreaded no matter how much I eat. My abs are more prominant...
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Old 06-26-04, 12:31 AM
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as SC54 said - nolvadex will not reduce water retention or aid in BF reduction. but congrats on getting ripped none the less.
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Old 02-19-17, 12:03 PM
Letro after nolva to stop estrogen rebound effect?
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Guys, im not on any cycle, havent done one yet... But somehow i got gyno, for maybe 6 months now, not too big, mild case maybe. ( prob from test booster, that's the only thing i took )
So i've done some researches and read somewhere that there is quite a big chance to reverse the effect of it by taking nolva 20mg/ed for 6 months or at least make it really smaller ( i know letro could help too, but after reasearches i decided to try it with nolva ), also i've read that nolva could increase my test, lean me out and stuff like that so thats a +.
Now my question is about the estrogen rebound effect, will it occure after i stop my 6 months nolva ccycle? Should i use some letro after that, maybe for 2 or 3 weeks? Or there is absolutely no need for letro? If yeah, how much of it should i take per day?
Pleease dont write me some science reseasrcches, if u know the answer and what to do, please answer me, i would really apriciatte it.
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Old 02-19-17, 12:11 PM
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Guys, im not on any cycle, havent done one yet... But somehow i got gyno, for maybe 6 months now, not too big, mild case maybe. ( prob from test booster, that's the only thing i took )
So i've done some researches and read somewhere that there is quite a big chance to reverse the effect of it by taking nolva 20mg/ed for 6 months or at least make it really smaller ( i know letro could help too, but after reasearches i decided to try it with nolva ), also i've read that nolva could increase my test, lean me out and stuff like that so thats a +.
Now my question is about the estrogen rebound effect, will it occure after i stop my 6 months nolva ccycle? Should i use some letro after that, maybe for 2 or 3 weeks? Or there is absolutely no need for letro? If yeah, how much of it should i take per day?
Pleease dont write me some science reseasrcches, if u know the answer and what to do, please answer me, i would really apriciatte it.
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there is no rebound effect from nolva as it does not lower estrogen. it simply blocks estrogen from making it's way to certain areas like the nipple area.

the nolv may help but if you have some sort of hormone imbalance the gyno will return after you stop nolv.
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Old 02-19-17, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for the answer, i dont think i got hormone imbalance, didnt check out but im feeling preety good, training and stuff, got some muscles but the thing that bothers me is that gyno.
I cant quite remember what i've read but its like nolva is blocking estrogen and being stored away, so once u stop it could rebound.
Are u 100% sure about that what u told me?
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Old 02-19-17, 12:44 PM
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If you're worried about possible rebound then just taper off the last couple weeks. Do 10mg for a week, then 10mg eod for a week then drop it.
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Old 02-19-17, 12:50 PM
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Thanks for the answer, i dont think i got hormone imbalance, didnt check out but im feeling preety good, training and stuff, got some muscles but the thing that bothers me is that gyno.
I cant quite remember what i've read but its like nolva is blocking estrogen and being stored away, so once u stop it could rebound.
Are u 100% sure about that what u told me?
a "rebound" would mean the estrogen was lowered in the first and once you go off nolv the estrogen will rise again. that's not how nolv works. it doesn't lower estrogen at all. thus it's imposable for there to be a "rebound".

however it is possible that your gyno returns after you go off nolv if you have any sort of hormone imbalance as I said.
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Old 02-19-17, 01:01 PM
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If you're worried about possible rebound then just taper off the last couple weeks. Do 10mg for a week, then 10mg eod for a week then drop it.
Im not quite introduced in all of that stuff, so could you please explain me.
Tappering off means lowering dose for a few last weeks, for example 10mg a day like u said?
And what does eod means
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Yeah that's what it is and eod means every other day. But Bouncer is right here you shouldn't have rebound from nolva. I believe clomid can cause rebound but only because it blocks the receptors in the pituitary, therefore your body does not think it has enough estrogen and will create more testosterone so it can convert more testosterone to estrogen but only slightly.

It is a negative feedback loop. As far as I am aware nolva does not affect the pituitary at the same level.
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Big thanks.
Now i already know where should i order from, some guys did recomend, but u can never be too sure.
I wanna hear ur opinion if possible which site is most popular and safest to order stuff like that from. I dont know if its okay for you to write names of sites here, no idea. Maybe in a message?
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You can post where you're considering. Any of the sponsors in the above banners are good. I use a research chemical company called maxim peptide.
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You can post where you're considering. Any of the sponsors in the above banners are good. I use a research chemical company called maxim peptide.
Thanks.
And the last question for today: Is tamoxifen same as nolvadex, is there any difrence if i take some cheaper tamoxifen citrate or it has to be nolva?
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Same stuff bro. Nolva is just a brand name of tamoxifen and easier to type.
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And the last question for today: Is tamoxifen same as nolvadex, is there any difrence if i take some cheaper tamoxifen citrate or it has to be nolva?
It's the chemical name for nolvadex. Nolvadex is a brand. They are identical.
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Old 02-19-17, 01:24 PM
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It's the chemical name for nolvadex. Nolvadex is a brand. They are identical.
Ok but i found like 20mg/60tabs for 57 dollars and 20mg/100tabs for 29 dollars, thats a huge difrence, could u explain that?
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Ok but i found like 20mg/60tabs for 57 dollars and 20mg/100tabs for 29 dollars, thats a huge difrence, could u explain that?
Could be the difference between an expensive brand name and a cheap generic version.
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Old 02-19-17, 01:30 PM
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Could be the difference between an expensive brand name and a cheap generic version.
Noe, i've read somewhere that 20mg nolva equals to 30.4mg of tamoxifen citrate...
Do you think it is true?
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Lol. Bro. How old are you? Get yourself nolvadex if that makes you feel better.

It may or may not get rid of your tits. If it does your tits may return or you may be good to go. Question session over.
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