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Old 06-11-05, 10:36 AM
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Hey guys and gals. I ordered 20 ml of Test 400 and 20ml of Equipose. Im not sure how I want to take these both yet. I was thinking of doing the Test first to see my gains than take the EQ. Does any1 recommend anything slightly different? My first cycle was Winnie if that counts. I got good gains and I was happy. Let me know what you guys think. I also thought of taking the EQ i with another Winnie cycle after Im dne the Test. thanks for your help.
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Definately run the test and EQ together. It would help to know what the concentration of the EQ is though, so that we can lay it out accurately.
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Definately run the test and EQ together. It would help to know what the concentration of the EQ is though, so that we can lay it out accurately.
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Old 06-11-05, 08:13 PM
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The equipoise is Boldabol 200mg/ml. SHould I front load the EQ so it kicks in when the test is working? Also what should i expect? I hear I will become vascular. My test intake is not very high so I hope my bloating is low.
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Also when shall I inject and am I able to mix the oil based steroids? Thanks guys
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Hey guys and gals. I ordered 20 ml of Test 400 and 20ml of Equipose. Im not sure how I want to take these both yet. I was thinking of doing the Test first to see my gains than take the EQ. Does any1 recommend anything slightly different? My first cycle was Winnie if that counts. I got good gains and I was happy. Let me know what you guys think. I also thought of taking the EQ i with another Winnie cycle after Im dne the Test. thanks for your help.
T400 by denkall?...lot of bros I know got fevers & painfull injecting it also it lumps and stays..too strong in general
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Old 06-12-05, 01:44 AM
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You should definately mix the EQ and test...it'll cut down on the T400 pain. Unfortunately, you really should have 10ml more of the EQ to run it in an optimum fashion with a frontload (and for 12 weeks rather than 10). Working with what you have, do this:

T400: 1mL/week (400mg)
EQ: 2mL/week (400mg)

Do that for 10 weeks, preferrably doing two injections per week made up of 1/2 mL of T400 and 1mL of EQ. You'll notice that you'll only be using half of the test that you have if you run it that way; given your cycle history, you shouldn't need more than 400mg/week of test to make good gains. Save the other 10mL of T400 for the next cycle. If you can get more EQ, post up and I'll adjust the cycle for a 12 week run including a frontload for EQ.
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Great! Thanks alot hitman. I cant wait to start and I will be posting my gains. Ill save the test for another cycle and maybe you could help me out again. Im learning alot of important facts. Thanks again!!
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You should definately mix the EQ and test...it'll cut down on the T400 pain. Unfortunately, you really should have 10ml more of the EQ to run it in an optimum fashion with a frontload (and for 12 weeks rather than 10). Working with what you have, do this:

T400: 1mL/week (400mg)
EQ: 2mL/week (400mg)

Do that for 10 weeks, preferrably doing two injections per week made up of 1/2 mL of T400 and 1mL of EQ. You'll notice that you'll only be using half of the test that you have if you run it that way; given your cycle history, you shouldn't need more than 400mg/week of test to make good gains. Save the other 10mL of T400 for the next cycle. If you can get more EQ, post up and I'll adjust the cycle for a 12 week run including a frontload for EQ.
Shoild I run something like clomid at the end of my cycle? Ive been reading alot of this to minimize female side effects and retain my gains. ALso thoughts on liquid clen and t3 for a anti-estrogen or fat burner. any help would be great! Thanks

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I read an old vet article that said never run the EQ without test
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Shoild I run something like clomid at the end of my cycle? Ive been reading alot of this to minimize female side effects and retain my gains. ALso thoughts on liquid clen and t3 for a anti-estrogen or fat burner. any help would be great! Thanks
This last post worries me a little TUTIM ..."Post your PCT" so we can see what it looks like ...
And you need to research clen and t3 a little further bro ....
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Ok, I'm a little lost here. Is this a female or a male? As far as test/eq the rule of thumb is to run it with test, but EQ is such a mild drug that it won't shut you down if you don't run test. I'm running eq right now with out test b/c I ran out for the time being and I'm fine, but I WOULDN'T ADVISE IT OF COURSE. Sounds like you need to do some more research on PCT before you start any cycle though.
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define what PCT please...once I know what it means Ill be able to post my info on it.
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define what PCT please...once I know what it means Ill be able to post my info on it.
post cycle therapy ....it would help to know if your male of female first....

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PCT is Post Cycle Therapy. This what you take once you are coming off a cycle. It include clomid, nolvadex, HCG, etc.. Most gym rats don't know about PCT or don't care, that's why they lose their gains experience more sides than others. You should have a well planned PCT before starting any cycle. Think of it as a reset button on your body. If you are running EQ and Test then your pct should consist of HCG, clomide or nolvadex or both depending on the individual. Most people tend to stick with nolvadex b/c of the sides experienced with clomid.
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I think that when tutim says minimize female side effects, HE is refering to estrogenic rebound that can occur post-cycle.

I have posted an easy-to-follow PCT regimen that works well for me many times on this site. It's been awhile, so I'll do it again.

The following assumes HCG reconstituted to 1000iu/mL, 20mg tabs of Nolvadex, and 50mg tabs of Clomid. A bit of simple math will adjust for different strength tabs or liquids.

Day 1: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 2: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 3: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 4: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 5: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 6: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 7: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 8: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 9: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 10: 1/2mL HCG, 1 tab Nolvadex
Day 11: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 12: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 13: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 14: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 15: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 16: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 17: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 18: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 19: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 20: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 21: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 22: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 23: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 24: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 25: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 26: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 27: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 28: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 29: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 30: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
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OK guys thank you. I am a male..LOL sorry if i confused you guys. I know that I need a pct but I wasnt sure what i was. Now that I understand and read info on it I beleve I will purchase some Nolvadex. You guys recommend tabs or injection?
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OK guys thank you. I am a male..LOL sorry if i confused you guys. I know that I need a pct but I wasnt sure what i was. Now that I understand and read info on it I beleve I will purchase some Nolvadex. You guys recommend tabs or injection?
I usually get the pill form. The liquid form (oral) is usually easier to get, but it taste like shit.
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Your most cost-effective option is probably the liquid from the store. Just click on the link => tamoxifen
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when and how much is taken to be effective?
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hitmansb has already laid out the cycle for you above.
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ok i see the layout for the pct. Now when do I start that? Right after my last injection? Im going to do just the nolvadex.
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If you are doing EQ then you want to start the nolva 3 weeks after your last injection.
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I got my test and Eq in today finally. I have my injection totals planned out thanks to wheyman and hitman. I have one more question. Do I take the dosage 7 days a week even though I dont workout all 7 days? Thanks guys.
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Yes. I would do Monday and Friday injections.
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I got my test and Eq in today finally. I have my injection totals planned out thanks to wheyman and hitman. I have one more question. Do I take the dosage 7 days a week even though I dont workout all 7 days? Thanks guys.
You're certainly not supposed to inject 7 days per week! Take 1cc of EQ and 1cc of test twice per week...I like to shoot on Mondays and Thursdays when I run test and EQ.
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