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Old 12-16-11, 07:20 AM
Tren Ace & Test Pro cycle please help!
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Hi everyone,

22 years old, been training hard for 5 years now and am going to start my first cycle in January. My aims are to rip up big time and also put on some more lean muscle.

I want to do a 6 week tren ace / test prop cycle.

I was advised to inject 1 ml of test and 1 ml of tren monday/wednesday and friday for 6 weeks. And then pin a dosage of hGC every sunday throughout the course. And then do 2 weeks of post cycle therapy after.

What improvements can I make on this plan?
Is 6 weeks long enough? or should I continue taking either the tren or test on their own for a few weeks after?
Should I take anything pre cycle to bump start it?
Is it correct to take the hGC every week and if so what dosage should it be?
And what post cycle therapy should I take?

thanks...any help would be really appreciated as I just want to get the most out of my first cycle but also stay safe!
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Old 12-16-11, 07:59 AM
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At 22 I think you're too young.

What are your stats?

First cycle should consist of test only. Do NOT run tren as part of a first cycle. If you were going to do a cycle start off with 250mg of test E or cyp every 5 days. Keep it simple.
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Old 12-16-11, 09:16 AM
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Let me throw in my 2cents. Not everyone can get just anything, and tren + prop are available.

As to the age, you can drink and vote, that's old enough for me.

Run that combo eod. Have nolva on hand, and be ready to use it when you're done shooting.

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Old 12-16-11, 09:31 AM
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^ then why not just run the prop? Doesn't make sense to me to run tren as part of a first cycle. Test only. To me that is simple.
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Old 12-16-11, 09:49 AM
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Chad, explain why the addition of tren acetate makes his cycle difficult.
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For the reasons Rado mentioned and also due to the sides that you can get from tren. I never had any issues running just test. Add tren and I start to get gyno symptoms, I don't sleep well at all and my mood changes. If I would have ran that for my first cycle then how do I know what’s causing the sides?
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Old 12-16-11, 10:07 AM
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It doesn't make it difficult...Just not wise for a 1st timer cycle, nor prop IMO...Most newbies don't want to inject ED or EOD...Go enanthate, shoot once every 7-10 days for 10wks...THAT'S simple.
Frequency of injections doesn't make it more confusing or difficult. And again, these two compounds may be the only thing he can get his hands on.
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Old 12-16-11, 10:20 AM
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For the reasons Rado mentioned and also due to the sides that you can get from tren. I never had any issues running just test. Add tren and I start to get gyno symptoms, I don't sleep well at all and my mood changes. If I would have ran that for my first cycle then how do I know what's causing the sides?
Nolva to differentiate which compound is the culprit. Concerns of sleeping well and mood changes are part and parcel to using anabolics, it happens and we adjust.
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Old 12-16-11, 10:28 AM
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Nolva to differentiate which compound is the culprit. Concerns of sleeping well and mood changes are part and parcel to using anabolics, it happens and we adjust.
To say you wonít sleep well and you will have mood changes while on any anabolics is a false statement. Give me just test and Iím fine. Add tren and there are sides. Not sure why youíre trying to argue this. For a first timer it always makes sense to just start with the basics and keep it simple. Test only.
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Old 12-16-11, 10:31 AM
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First timer should never ever use tren.
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Old 12-16-11, 10:34 AM
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Most people don't adjust...Stop your rambling bs already.
Rambling? Negative.

He said what he is planning on using. He did not say, well, I can get lots of other things, just tell me what to buy.

I'll giving info based upon what he posted related to what I've personally done.

Im saying again, it's simple.
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Old 12-16-11, 10:40 AM
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I'll giving info based upon what he posted related to what I've personally done.

Im saying again, it's simple.
So if he can get test (prop) and he should keep it simple then why not a test only cycle. How is adding tren keeping it simple?
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Old 12-16-11, 10:46 AM
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Auri come at us brah!
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Old 12-16-11, 10:55 AM
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So if he can get test (prop) and he should keep it simple then why not a test only cycle. How is adding tren keeping it simple?
He wants to use both. Again, how is adding tren somehow making this so difficult that he shouldn't? Easy to get, potent, relatively cheap.

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Old 12-16-11, 11:00 AM
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He wants to use both. Again, how is adding tren somehow making this so difficult that he shouldn't? Easy to get, potent, relatively cheap.
Your speaking as someone who doesn't get sides from tren. Many do including me. If you do run test and tren together and you happen to get sides from both, a first time user would not know his body well enough and get confused as to what is happening. Not sure why you are having such a hard time understanding that. Test alone is far less likely to give sides and if it does there is only 1 cause.. Estrogen and that can be addressed as soon as you see sides. 2 compounds hitting you with sides from 2 different directions is more complicated then 1.
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Simple=Test....now tuck your tail and run...As if you have ANY experience other than reading on google and this board on what to take or do? Enlighten me son...
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Exactly...Now stfu and get ready for your night out...
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B i can see you still got your loyal sidekick rado

but as far as the cycle goes id have to agree with them, auri. Test should always be used solo first cycle to understand what how the compound reacts to your body, since test is almost always going to be the base of any cycle you run. Wouldnt want him to run off scared after hitting a wall with the tren sides, and he wouldnt know how to differentiate between whats causing it.
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Old 12-16-11, 12:55 PM
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Old 12-16-11, 01:01 PM
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T'was I that first said tren turned me into a nasty person on here. Its very potent and is far too easily thrown in the mix. Some people claim to get no sides off it and maybe they don't or are too ignorant to notice. Personally I wouldn't want to share a house with someone on it. Either way I totally age bouncers and rado s comments above and would totally dissuade a first time user from going near it.
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Lol my wife says" is that the stuff that makes you cough?" God bless her.
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Isn't this how your misses feels about you right now
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