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Old 03-12-15, 08:48 AM
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So the guy I get all my stuff from told me I should try Halotestin. Anybody used this? What're you thoughts? 20 mg a day 5 days a week, weekends not taking it, for 25 days. Thoughts??
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Old 03-12-15, 08:54 AM
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Just no. He's trying to sell you more shit at this point.

Your worried about sides of test and now your considering halo. lol.

Stick to basics and get a proper cycle under your belt bro.
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Old 03-12-15, 09:21 AM
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So is Halo on it's own bad? I'm not gonna take test yet
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Old 03-12-15, 09:24 AM
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Your not gonna run test now?

No, do not run halo by itself.

Listen very clear. ORAL ONLY CYCLE ARE SHIT. There are no 2 ways around this.
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Old 03-12-15, 11:21 AM
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I am gonna hold off on the test for a couple months. I don't think I'm ready mentally yet for the needles man. I know I'm a pussy and everything but I'm just gonna hold off for a little longer. But everyone I've talked to other people who said Halo is goods for strength increase with little side effects if you don't abuse it for extended periods?
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Old 03-12-15, 04:18 PM
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Lol, Halo was only ever a competition drug, and when UG tren became available everyone dropped halo like a bad smell because it was so toxic, COMPARED TO TREN

That should tell you everything
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Old 03-12-15, 07:05 PM
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HALO you definitely do not want to use solo and for the average person there are better choices for gains. HALO is best as a finisher IMO.
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Old 03-12-15, 07:56 PM
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Lol, Halo was only ever a competition drug, and when UG tren became available everyone dropped halo like a bad smell because it was so toxic, COMPARED TO TREN

That should tell you everything
I wonder what's more toxic halo anadrol or oral methy tren.
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Old 03-13-15, 12:56 AM
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I wonder what's more toxic halo anadrol or oral methy tren.
Why?
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Old 03-13-15, 10:43 AM
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I am gonna hold off on the test for a couple months. I don't think I'm ready mentally yet for the needles man. I know I'm a pussy and everything but I'm just gonna hold off for a little longer. But everyone I've talked to other people who said Halo is goods for strength increase with little side effects if you don't abuse it for extended periods?
well my friend. you're an idiot.

come back when you learn your lesson...

you are absolutely 100% making a horrible decision. remember my words.
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Old 03-14-15, 02:43 AM
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Why?
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Old 03-16-15, 11:21 AM
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I talked to my dads body building friend (he's been lifting for over 15 years, taking steroids for over 10) (Not the two assholes trying to sell me everything and anything) and he gave me a LOT of feedback and advice. Plus he is my dads friend and is willing to sell me the material.


-10 mL bottle of Test E and Deca. 1 mL of each once a week, every monday.
-.25 mg of Nolvadex EOD to help subside gyno (because now I know I am Gyno prone)
-Stick myself every monday and take DECA every monday
-EOD (tuesday, thursday, saturday, etc.) pop .25 mg of Nolvadex
-Continue for 10 weeks
-After last injection, take Nolvadex 3 more times
-2 week break, TAKE NOTHING
-after two weeks, take Nolv @50 mg everyday for a month
-after that month, take Nolv @25 mg for another month
-Done with first cycle, back to natural.

I lift 6 times a week isolation lifts (bi's/tri's monday, lats/back/traps tuesday, chest/abs wednesday, shoulders thursday, recycle..)
Tuesday/Thursday OR Monday/Wed./Fri. i do compound lifts at school (hang clean, squats, bench, deadlifts, etc...)
I do intense 50 minute workouts with little rest in between sets to overload and maximize my muscle growth

Diet:
3.5k caloric intake w/ 200+ g of protein a day. 1+ gallon of water.

Hows this sound? efficient? Thanks for the feedback!!

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Old 03-16-15, 11:48 AM
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Test only. What if you start getting signs of gyno. Is it from the test or deca? Keep it simple. Start with test and then add deca to your next cycle.
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Old 03-16-15, 12:56 PM
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few problems.

nolv @.25mgs EOD will do nothing. you are confusing nolv and adex.

also, there are 2 type of gyno. the kind you get from estrogen and the kind you get from progesterone. progesterone type gyno is what you could potentially get from deca.

by using both test and deca you will not know where the gyno is coming from and nolvadex is worthless for progesterone type gyno.

simple solution. test only cycle. 300-400mgs per week. you are making thing unnecessarily complicated.
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How many mL is 300 mg then? And how many mg of nolv should I run EOD with test cycle
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Depends. Could be 300mg per ml. It varies from brand to brand.

10-20mgs nolv ED not EOD.
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Old 03-16-15, 05:17 PM
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1 mL each week for 10 weeks. nolv every day for 10 weeks, after 10 weeks, take 2-3 week break. Then I'm done..? What/should I have PCT? If so what? Back to natty? How much of my gains do you think I will I lose after I'm done with first cycle?
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Old 03-16-15, 06:09 PM
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Just stay on nolv and increase dose 3 weeks after last shot to 50mgs per day for a month.
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Just stay on nolv and increase dose 3 weeks after last shot to 50mgs per day for a month.
I thought with nolva you start high and taper down not up.
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I thought with nolva you start high and taper down not up.
Not when your using it as pct.

Low dose to prevent gyno, high dose to bring natty test back.
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Old 03-17-15, 12:34 PM
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After last shot, that Monday, do I keep talking nolv the rest that week? And then take nothing for the next two weeks...then hop back on nolv at 50 mg
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Lol. Read bro.

I said don't come off nolv. Stay on.
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Old 03-17-15, 01:24 PM
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Stay on nolv for 13 weeks straight, then increase dosage to 50 mg after 13 weeks
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Old 03-17-15, 01:28 PM
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And continue 50 mg dosage for a whole month
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