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Old 04-05-17, 09:07 PM
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He won't send, and ask not to send Chadd, because there is a secret formula from the owner of GH around the world... And for this I spoke with the lab, learned how it could be... it was better to ignore these attacks, it is not GH from the nameless master of the world GH. This mixture shows better results than Norditropin, but it is very secret.

He passed millions of tests, believe the word of his friend controls the market for GH in the world.

No, ROCKETW19, I won't buy it from you. Sell to their friends...
lmao no one knows what the fuck you just said retard . you still here? you should be banned and banner taking down scammer your gh is not 100ius per vial no matter what you say
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He won't send, and ask not to send Chadd, because there is a secret formula from the owner of GH around the world... And for this I spoke with the lab, learned how it could be... it was better to ignore these attacks, it is not GH from the nameless master of the world GH. This mixture shows better results than Norditropin, but it is very secret.

He passed millions of tests, believe the word of his friend controls the market for GH in the world.

No, ROCKETW19, I won't buy it from you. Sell to their friends...
Here's the thing bro. Even if you don't believe rocket. Chad also used those blacktops and they tested very well.

I've known both these guys a long time. Rocket may come across like a cunt sometimes but he's not a liar and neither is Chad.

So take my advice, order these blacktops and get them tested.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:09 PM
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Bro just order a kit directly from China. Chad would have to send you a vial to Russia and all that. Much better if you just order it directly. If it tests out well then you can buy a ton of them. If it tests out poor then it's only one kit.
I need an exact contact in China, in May I will be there, and I will be able to visit the production and look at the great lord of GH, but the nameless bottles with black lids are made there on every corner. If I get a direct contact - I can contact the manufacturer and negotiate.
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Bro just order a kit directly from China. Chad would have to send you a vial to Russia and all that. Much better if you just order it directly. If it tests out well then you can buy a ton of them. If it tests out poor then it's only one kit.
swallow while you are at it.
he wont buy real stuff he wants to make more money selling his junk.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:11 PM
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I do not care where he tells me to send it I will send it and I will pay. he did nothing and he actually said I do not care what the result is post the honest result thats all. I can almost bet your ass if I posted a low number he would not be on here crying like select scammer.

I would also call you on him not changing his website to reflect whats really in it.
you think this is personal with select scammer? its not he just pissed me off so I keep digging in the knife world Gh is the same fuckin way and no matter what you think as owner and controller of this site you have to protect your members that a unwritten rule you know this and buy allowing both them fucks up there clamming what they are clamming make you a scammer also.
this is why I am so upset you are selling me and everyone who ever comes to this site out for a few boxes of GH
Again I disagree. It's not a scam if the GH is good. I'm using the shit myself and like I said I'm feeling and seeing the results. Chads igf score was not bad. I think it's an over reaction to call him a scammer when he's not only willing to have his products tested but he also pulled products when they test really poor in the case of alphatrop.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:13 PM
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he wont buy real stuff he wants to make more money selling his junk.
Give him a contact and let's see.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:13 PM
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I need an exact contact in China, in May I will be there, and I will be able to visit the production and look at the great lord of GH, but the nameless bottles with black lids are made there on every corner. If I get a direct contact - I can contact the manufacturer and negotiate.
lmao rookie if it was that easy everyone would do it.

lol look at you trying to run with the big boys lol I though you had Pharma grade real 100iu vials? ha you want to find mine now LMAO you just fucking lost and pretty much admitting your full of shit. cuz no matter what anyone says if I knew my Gh was real and from a legit Pharma why would search for some black top Gh in china? cuz you know mine is real and you got fucked in the ass by the Chinese.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:16 PM
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Again I disagree. It's not a scam if the GH is good. I'm using the shit myself and like I said I'm feeling and seeing the results. Chads igf score was not complete shit. I think it's an over reaction to call him a scammer when he's not only willing to have his products tested but he also pulled products when they test really poor in the case of alphatrop.
your blind again if you are selling 100iu you have to give 100ius when is this a thing where well it was ok score so let it go? really no fucking way. someone go ask this question on any board and see what you get. they will tell you same thing scammer a person knowingly selling low dosed GH on purpose. that is never right in any way shape or form
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lmao rookie if it was that easy everyone would do it.

lol look at you trying to run with the big boys lol I though you had Pharma grade real 100iu vials? ha you want to find mine now LMAO you just fucking lost and pretty much admitting your full of shit. cuz no matter what anyone says if I knew my Gh was real and from a legit Pharma why would search for some black top Gh in china? cuz you know mine is real and you got fucked in the ass by the Chinese.
Give him a contact and let's see if your right. If he don't order anything we'll know your right. If he orders a shit ton you'll have to admit the guy is trying.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:18 PM
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Give him a contact and let's see.
lmao you have got to be kidding me right he wants it he can buy it from me if not have fun looking ill be the first to tell you you will waste a shit ton on money trying to find it. I have spent a bazillion dollars in my life buying under dosed shit. there 99% bunk shit and 1% real 100iu GH good luck
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your blind again if you are selling 100iu you have to give 100ius when is this a thing where well it was ok score so let it go? really no fucking way. someone go ask this question on any board and see what you get. they will tell you same thing scammer a person knowingly selling low dosed GH on purpose. that is never right in any way shape or form
Think of it like this bro. Old school dbol used to be strong as fuck. People could take 15mgs and blow the fuck up. Today's dbol no matter where you go you gotta take 50mgs to get the same results. Does that mean everyone selling dbol today is a scammer? No it just means that quality and purity levels aren't always equal. I don't see how that turns someone into a scammer though.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:19 PM
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Give him a contact and let's see if your right. If he don't order anything we'll know your right. If he orders a shit ton you'll have to admit the guy is trying.
you sound like a lil bitch right now. fuck me some of your post draw me back into the old Bouncer and then you say weird shit like this and makes me say WTF.
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Old 04-05-17, 09:21 PM
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Think of it like this bro. Old school dbol used to be strong as fuck. People could take 15mgs and blow the fuck up. Today's dbol no matter where you go you gotta take 50mgs to get the same results. Does that mean everyone selling dbol today is a scammer? No it just means that quality and purity levels aren't always equal. I don't see how that turns someone into a scammer though.
no I do not take Dbol so I have no clue but if you label the Dbol as 50mgs and it isn't your a fucking scammer also
wha the fuck I dont get your thinking
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Old 04-05-17, 09:22 PM
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hey let me put up a banner at the top of this sit I am going to start selling REAL GH cool?
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Old 04-05-17, 09:24 PM
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lmao you have got to be kidding me right he wants it he can buy it from me if not have fun looking ill be the first to tell you you will waste a shit ton on money trying to find it. I have spent a bazillion dollars in my life buying under dosed shit. there 99% bunk shit and 1% real 100iu GH good luck
So your saying you won't even give the guy a chance to buy them unless he gets them through you? Why not allow him the opportunity to sell what you consider to be the best? If this is all about the members don't you want everyone selling great HGH?
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you sound like a lil bitch right now. fuck me some of your post draw me back into the old Bouncer and then you say weird shit like this and makes me say WTF.
Bro all you wanna do is talk shit instead of helping out. This is about the members right? Then let's get as much good GH out there as we can. Now your saying anyone that wants it has to go through you?
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Old 04-05-17, 09:32 PM
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I have spent a bazillion dollars in my life buying under dosed shit.
You were a very rich man ... It's a pity that it happened ...

Let me start first - AnkeBio

this is the official website of the Corporation AnkeBio - there's even a button "contact us". No need to thank me, I just started.


http://www.gensci-china.com/ - This is the official website of the Corporation GenSci. But if you want to buy GH legally in Europe - you need to work with their representative - Europharm | Exclusive distributor of pharmaceutical products

EAファーマ*式会社 - This is the drug manufacturer from Japan, Yes, they are too large and do a lot of interesting things. and their representative is also Europharm.

Well, I have revealed to you the secret and saved a lot of money out of these companies with billions in turnover, selling their products legally in many countries around the world. Now I deserve a Skype or phone great Lord GH? Or major producers with equity participation of the state in comparison with it's small fry?
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so when am I putting up my banner. how much does select scammer sell his under dosed GH for 260 and it ships from Russia LMAO in the banner can you please put sent from USA domestic and $220 per real 100IU box of GH
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You were a very rich man ... It's a pity that it happened ...

Let me start first - AnkeBio

this is the official website of the Corporation AnkeBio - there's even a button "contact us". No need to thank me, I just started.


http://www.gensci-china.com/ - This is the official website of the Corporation GenSci. But if you want to buy GH legally in Europe - you need to work with their representative - Europharm | Exclusive distributor of pharmaceutical products

EAファーマ*式会社 - This is the drug manufacturer from Japan, Yes, they are too large and do a lot of interesting things. and their representative is also Europharm.

Well, I have revealed to you the secret and saved a lot of money out of these companies with billions in turnover, selling their products legally in many countries around the world. Now I deserve a Skype or phone great Lord GH? Or major producers with equity participation of the state in comparison with it's small fry?
lol your suck a fucking tool. you think pretty boxes and fancy stickers make you have good GH? this company has zero English on the whole website yet the instructions in the box has all English LMAO dead give away you rookie I dont get it people go so far and are so stupid to forget that part . dont feel bad almost all of them do that. I once was fooled buy fancy boxes and cool stickers it ws called Euroject the Gh was fucking on point and looked like it was from Europe. only later did I find out its just generic Gh from china like your with fancy stickers I laugh at myself now but this was 14 years ago I too was like most of you and didn't know any better.
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so when am I putting up my banner. how much does select scammer sell his under dosed GH for 260 and it ships from Russia LMAO in the banner can you please put sent from USA domestic and $220 per real 100IU box of GH
You do not need to lie and slander your competitors, using your authority on the forum, you just need to do your job well.

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There is a button "English" on all sites except Japanese. But oh well, do not waste my time.
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not to mention the real company you buy from sells under dosed GH lmao I dont think so rookie. dead give away number 2

also when you really want to step you counterfeit game up you have to invest in a stamped top not the generic one that say flip. REAL companys never have this they always brand the shit out of their stuff

I prob shouldn't tell you any more ways to scammer the newbis though
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Do you know the trouble with your lies? On this forum there are people from Europe. And there are those who though sometimes they are in China, and I think somewhere in the beginning of the 2 pages of this thread they started to laugh - well, now they stopped reading at all.
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I prob shouldn't tell you any more ways to scammer the newbis though
I understand that you are an expert in scammer matters, I'll leave you alone, you can tell people about your great GH, I don't mind, and good night.
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Old 04-05-17, 10:23 PM
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Here's the thing bro. Even if you don't believe rocket. Chad also used those blacktops and they tested very well.

I've known both these guys a long time. Rocket may come across like a cunt sometimes but he's not a liar and neither is Chad.

So take my advice, order these blacktops and get them tested.
I too vouch for these clowns. We've all known each other for more than 10yrs plus...
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I too vouch for these clowns. We've all known each other for more than 10yrs plus...
rado, if someone sells you 10 vials of weed and they only send you 6 is that a scammer ? fuck yes it is what is the difference if you say its 100ius and you only get 60IUs ? no difference you got scammed why is it so hard for people to not see this?
give me your honest answer its not like your scared I dont even need to say that but really reply with your answer please.

I already know you going to say yes and here the hard part cuz you are tight with B but if he allows this as the owner and controller of this site is he not just as bad? you prob wont answer that one but you know it is true and it would never happen at any other board except the scammer sites.
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let you big boy balls hang and reply honestly.
fuck all of you reply honestly.
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Test igf after 3 months of use, a bottle for research, contact the manufacturer, well, at least something from this we can get? Or will you continue to unreasonably call us fraudsters?

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Test igf after 3 months of use, a bottle for research, contact the manufacturer, well, at least something from this we can get? Or will you continue to unreasonably call us fraudsters, and sell your unnamed hormone from the lord of all gh on earth?
what are you talking about? no one understand a fucking thing you are saying? are you telling me to test my IGF in 3 months? I have many times whats your point is very clear you do not know anything about GH or at least real GH.

for the record it does have a name I am just not telling you. for the record the name the box the sticker the color of cap none of that matters it is whats inside that matters and where you bought it from. your such a rookie its funny
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Test igf after 3 months of use, a bottle for research, contact the manufacturer, well, at least something from this we can get? Or will you continue to unreasonably call us fraudsters?

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unreasonably call you a fraudster lol you are a fucking scammer you retard. here in America if you say you have 100iu boxes and give less you are a scammer this is exactly what you are doing
bouncer is bought and paid for I see this but maybe someone will reply. I can take this question to any ANY board and ask and I with out a doubt know everyone will say you are a scammer.
want me to do that? its pretty embarrassing to me that I have been a member here so long where shit like this goes on but fuck it call me on it and I will.
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rado, if someone sells you 10 vials of weed and they only send you 6 is that a scammer ? fuck yes it is what is the difference if you say its 100ius and you only get 60IUs ? no difference you got scammed why is it so hard for people to not see this?
give me your honest answer its not like your scared I dont even need to say that but really reply with your answer please.

I already know you going to say yes and here the hard part cuz you are tight with B but if he allows this as the owner and controller of this site is he not just as bad? you prob wont answer that one but you know it is true and it would never happen at any other board except the scammer sites.
Listen brother and ive been following this from the get-go, here i go.

I think you and bouncer know i say what want.

I literally just told bouncer that in all the years(like what bro, maybe 14yrs or more)I've known you, i have NEVER seen you act or be this way, and you my nigg too. You've hooked me up multiple times, you have good shit, i can personally vouch for it.

To answer your question, yes that would be IMO a person scamming, BUT HEAR ME OUT...HOLD UP BITCH lol

You and i are probably the most versatile on lab work knowledge because we've both have preached this and have done them as well; it's a good feeling seeing other's follow suit.

Chadds igf levels were not the best, but bro, give some credit where it's due. Anything in the 400s is risking insulin sensitivity, period/factual.

Those "health levels" of igf you and i talk about, those numbers need to be in the 300s

Here's the thing on your GH. Get it out there and just kill the competition. I know your shit is good, stop the bs brother, you're better than that.

I know you well and never seen you like this my man, just giving it to you real homz. I will buy from you, give me a good deal on 90 days, i will test and post for you.

I already spend $275 a month for my weed. Been doing that for 4yrs straight, i could of been bigger than you.

And believe it or not, i gave bouncer a piece of my mind on ANY BOARD SPONSORS (ANY..NOT ANYONE PARTICULAR)...do.i think bouncer needs to tighten ship around here? Fuck sure does.

Only a few of us came from the FG/FB days. I honestly have never seen a bunch of grown ass men (me included)act like a bunch of bitches. The morale around here has gone to shits and needs to be fixed.


This all started with GH topics, i get it, many fakes etc.etc we all need to be part of the solution, not the problem. Were a bunch of dudes thinking our shits better than the rest. Fair enough, then let's just prove it and best winner win

We all need to stop throwing rocks at the glass house. You're a HUGE asset to this board and the community. Let's handle this like grown men and move on.
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If you do not mind, I'll sum it up here and ask a couple of questions:

You were deceived for 10 years, and sold a bad GH, but then you found a guy who controls half of the world market GH. It is in China, and does not discount even large wholesalers. But he made you a discount because ... Damn, I do not know, apparently because you've been looking for him for a long time. The drug that he sends you shows just the final results, which by an order of magnitude bypass the original GH from the manufacturers, and you decided, comparing the tests that all HG were with a low dosage. And all around well, just hellish scammers.

This guy sends you samples - without labels, in white boxes (I have not seen your drugs, it's just the cheapest packaging in China) and when you say that they are bad, you send them back to him in exchange for new ones.

First question.

Why are you sending back these probes? What's the point? He will try to sell them to someone else? If there were series of production on the packages, or dates, it would be understandable. Perhaps they would look for a problem on the production line, for example, calibrate the lyaphilizate or check the bacteria. But no, except for the explanation "to sell to someone else" the reasons are no more.

This drug is super pure 191aa, but to make tests, you must ask permission from the manufacturer (in common with him in the PM).

And immediately the second question.

If it's pure GH, what's the difference to him? Any father-in-law will show 191aa and all conversations will end right away.

Acting on the facts, from this Chinese friend you will beat us in that our products are low-dosage. I did not miss anything?
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Listen brother and ive been following this from the get-go, here i go.

I think you and bouncer know i say what want.

I literally just told bouncer that in all the years(like what bro, maybe 14yrs or more)I've known you, i have NEVER seen you act or be this way, and you my nigg too. You've hooked me up multiple times, you have good shit, i can personally vouch for it.

To answer your question, yes that would be IMO a person scamming, BUT HEAR ME OUT...HOLD UP BITCH lol

You and i are probably the most versatile on lab work knowledge because we've both have preached this and have done them as well; it's a good feeling seeing other's follow suit.

Chadds igf levels were not the best, but bro, give some credit where it's due. Anything in the 400s is risking insulin sensitivity, period/factual.

Those "health levels" of igf you and i talk about, those numbers need to be in the 300s

Here's the thing on your GH. Get it out there and just kill the competition. I know your shit is good, stop the bs brother, you're better than that.

I know you well and never seen you like this my man, just giving it to you real homz. I will buy from you, give me a good deal on 90 days, i will test and post for you.

I already spend $275 a month for my weed. Been doing that for 4yrs straight, i could of been bigger than you.

And believe it or not, i gave bouncer a piece of my mind on ANY BOARD SPONSORS (ANY..NOT ANYONE PARTICULAR)...do.i think bouncer needs to tighten ship around here? Fuck sure does.

Only a few of us came from the FG/FB days. I honestly have never seen a bunch of grown ass men (me included)act like a bunch of bitches. The morale around here has gone to shits and needs to be fixed.


This all started with GH topics, i get it, many fakes etc.etc we all need to be part of the solution, not the problem. Were a bunch of dudes thinking our shits better than the rest. Fair enough, then let's just prove it and best winner win

We all need to stop throwing rocks at the glass house. You're a HUGE asset to this board and the community. Let's handle this like grown men and move on.
thank you for giving you honest reply as I know you will say whats on your mind.

but did you just make an excuse to sell low dosed gh cuz high IGF levels are safer lmao really bro. read that over and see if you want to change anything.
ok I will sell to you, you send me your hard earned money and I will send you 9 vials in each box fuckit its safer that way right?

bro honestly I wanted to help you when you asked its just not that easy. I live in America where selling drugs is a damn felony
I have everything in the world want with in reason I want a lot of cars. I have 3 cars, 2 bikes and a huge fucking bad ass house (that I just made a home theater room in on of the rooms its fucking dope) I do not want to trade this in for a 4 X 6 prison cell Been there done that it sucks ass. I helped chad and I only say I helped him cuz he does not mind me saying cuz he did some cool as shit for me years ago that I will never forget. I was gonna help one other guy just before you asked me but hes a rookie and was blabbing all kinds of shit telling people my black tops ect. I am no drug dealer he ruined it or I would of got for you also. shit I want everyone to get the real proper dosed product.

this piece of shit and world GH selling under-dosed GH is fucking so wrong its not even funny to top it off bouncer knows it and lets it be.
come on bro I would crush this rookie if I really wanted to the mother fucker cant even send a reply that makes sense let alone help someone with their cycle. lol
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If you do not mind, I'll sum it up here and ask a couple of questions:

You were deceived for 10 years, and sold a bad GH, but then you found a guy who controls half of the world market GH. It is in China, and does not discount even large wholesalers. But he made you a discount because ... Damn, I do not know, apparently because you've been looking for him for a long time. The drug that he sends you shows just the final results, which by an order of magnitude bypass the original GH from the manufacturers, and you decided, comparing the tests that all HG were with a low dosage. And all around well, just hellish scammers.

This guy sends you samples - without labels, in white boxes (I have not seen your drugs, it's just the cheapest packaging in China) and when you say that they are bad, you send them back to him in exchange for new ones.

First question.

Why are you sending back these probes? What's the point? He will try to sell them to someone else? If there were series of production on the packages, or dates, it would be understandable. Perhaps they would look for a problem on the production line, for example, calibrate the lyaphilizate or check the bacteria. But no, except for the explanation "to sell to someone else" the reasons are no more.

This drug is super pure 191aa, but to make tests, you must ask permission from the manufacturer (in common with him in the PM).

And immediately the second question.

If it's pure GH, what's the difference to him? Any father-in-law will show 191aa and all conversations will end right away.

Acting on the facts, from this Chinese friend you will beat us in that our products are low-dosage. I did not miss anything?
I have no clue what you are saying and its clear you have no clue whatI am saying I am not replying to you anymore you are a scammer piece of shit. suck my balls lick my ass hole
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thank you for giving you honest reply as I know you will say whats on your mind.

but did you just make an excuse to sell low dosed gh cuz high IGF levels are safer lmao really bro. read that over and see if you want to change anything.
ok I will sell to you, you send me your hard earned money and I will send you 9 vials in each box fuckit its safer that way right?

bro honestly I wanted to help you when you asked its just not that easy. I live in America where selling drugs is a damn felony
I have everything in the world want with in reason I want a lot of cars. I have 3 cars, 2 bikes and a huge fucking bad ass house (that I just made a home theater room in on of the rooms its fucking dope) I do not want to trade this in for a 4 X 6 prison cell Been there done that it sucks ass. I helped chad and I only say I helped him cuz he does not mind me saying cuz he did some cool as shit for me years ago that I will never forget. I was gonna help one other guy just before you asked me but hes a rookie and was blabbing all kinds of shit telling people my black tops ect. I am no drug dealer he ruined it or I would of got for you also. shit I want everyone to get the real proper dosed product.

this piece of shit and world GH selling under-dosed GH is fucking so wrong its not even funny to top it off bouncer knows it and lets it be.
come on bro I would crush this rookie if I really wanted to the mother fucker cant even send a reply that makes sense let alone help someone with their cycle. lol
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rado, if someone sells you 10 vials of weed and they only send you 6 is that a scammer ? fuck yes it is what is the difference if you say its 100ius and you only get 60IUs ? no difference you got scammed why is it so hard for people to not see this?

I already know you going to say yes and here the hard part cuz you are tight with B but if he allows this as the owner and controller of this site is he not just as bad? you prob wont answer that one but you know it is true and it would never happen at any other board except the scammer sites.
This is a bad comparison. We have a fundamental disagreement here on what makes a scammer. Let me explain.

A more direct comparison is if someone sells you weed that does the job and gets you high but maybe not quite as high as you were expecting. That's not necessarily a scam by the dealer. That's more a question of quality and supply. You wouldn't scream "scammer" if your weed dealer gave you good weed but not amazing weed. You would just say "ehh it could be better". A true scam would be ordering 10 vials of weed and only receiving 6 from the dealer. That is an intentional scam and that is NOT what is going on here.

A scammer does not send out tons of free products to people and say "please get bloodwork and post honest results" as select has done on multiple occasions. A scammer does not pull a product from his shelves (alphatrop) when it tested so poorly. Why would a scammer ask people to post honest test results if they knew what they were selling was junk in the first place? Admit it rocket, that makes zero sense.

Chad ran ansomeones and he felt the sides. He wanted to get them tested and lower the dose because the sides were too much if I'm not mistaken. I'm running select GH and I am not bullshitting when I say I am feeling and seeing the results. There is no coverup here bro, all results are posted and nothing is edited. your trying to make me out to be the fucken devil and you're just wrong.

My main disagreement here with you is the scammer label. IMO the actions of select are actually the opposite of a scammer.

I have no argument with you about the whole pharm grade vs generic with fancy stickers thing because I have no proof one way or another to dispute that. So that is not my argument with you. Our argument is about what makes a scammer.

I think if people are honest and not afraid of arguing with you they would tell you that you have been a little over the top about this issue. I think most people here disagree with you on the scammer issue. Hell, select has even shown interest in buying a bunch of the blacktops and selling them, you wont allow him to do that. Why would a scammer show interest in selling a product that you yourself say is top notch? If this is all about the members, allow him to purchase the blacktops and sell them. That way more people can get there hands on them. Why would that be a bad thing?
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I would like to apologize to all forum users who witnessed this squabble. And I wanted to explain my position.

Every country in the world has its own rules and laws. In Russia, gh is a legal drug that is sold in pharmacies, and I think for many it's not news. Our company works in Russia legally, we have a firm, a brand, contracts with suppliers, offices in several cities, and our retail sales have long exceeded 5000IU per day. And this is not counting the wholesale trade, as we act as wholesalers for several stores.

Because of the large volumes of drug sales, we often conduct product tests, we cooperate with several laboratories doing analyzes for us.

We cooperate with Chinese and European companies, and we have direct contact with some manufacturers.

And now imagine - there is a guy on the forum (maybe he is very good for you, but I do not know him), and says that his unknown Black tops from China is the only original gh, the producer is classified, no contracts, just the best gh and all. And this Chinese seller controls half the market gh in the world.

During my time in this company, I went to trip in China 2 times, and never met this overlord of the market gh.


Regarding the extremely high IGF tests, I would like to tell you one story that I learned while looking for an answer to the question - why BT showed better results than Ans.



A few years ago a single manufacturer contacted our firm, and offered cooperation. Sent samples showed simple crazy figures. And some time this gh was sold in our stores. But after a while, complaints began to come to us - that the drug began to work much worse. Firm did repeated tests - and they were again the best at. The company had to work hard to understand what was the deception of the manufacturer.


In fact, in each 10IU vial was 15-20IU. This drug was not with low doses, but rather with extremely high. And like it should be just great. But gh in these flasks was extremely cheap, with a low degree of purification, and after some time the clients began to develop antibodies for this drug. And after a while he stopped working at all. So I asked to show blood tests in a few months after using Black tops.

This is a very long and not interesting text, and I do not think anyone has read it to the end, but I just wanted to express my opinion.

Thank you! With Respect, Selecthgh.
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Select, I know you and Rocket got off to a bad start and probably will stay that way. He's been running the same GH from the same guy for many years. Over those years he has had blood work done multiple times. If what you're saying is true, his levels should have dropped after being on for a couple months. They didn't. I believe you that some companies are doing business this way and trying to trick the customer but that's not the case with Rocket. But he does understand some companies operate this way he comes across as being so passionate about it.
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I am wondering, if it is made in a regulated pharmacy, how did the blood tests show an igf at a so-so level? Do peoples bodies process hgh differently? Is this pharmacy govt. regulated? Is it like a compounding pharmacy in the US? I am very ignorant on hgh but woild like to know as much as I can incase I want to but some in the future.
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I am wondering, if it is made in a regulated pharmacy, how did the blood tests show an igf at a so-so level? Do peoples bodies process hgh differently? Is this pharmacy govt. regulated? Is it like a compounding pharmacy in the US? I am very ignorant on hgh but woild like to know as much as I can incase I want to but some in the future.
Your points are valid and I can't answer the pharmacy questions but let's keep things in context here. If you went to a doc with igf levels of 453 they would not say "oh your igf level is so so". They would ask why are your igf levels so extremely high? 200 points above average is not so so. I understand it could be even higher but this is about context here.
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Frank's post at the end of this thread is very interesting to me. I've used mk-677 multiple times from multiple places for months on end and it does absolutely nothing after the first 2 weeks where you blow up like your on dbol. If that guys igf was raised by mk-677 alone it challenges what we think we know about peptides and the nature of igf itself. If igf levels can be raised but the product yields no results after 2 weeks there is something we are missing on the igf front.

It begs the question to me at least can you have a product that raises igf levels yet gives no results? If the answer is yes because of these new compounds then we have a situation where igf score alone doesn't tell the whole story.

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I am wondering, if it is made in a regulated pharmacy, how did the blood tests show an igf at a so-so level? Do peoples bodies process hgh differently? Is this pharmacy govt. regulated? Is it like a compounding pharmacy in the US? I am very ignorant on hgh but woild like to know as much as I can incase I want to but some in the future.

I'll try to explain. IGF is not GH.

And pharmacy drugs have never been developed as IGF booster. This is just one of the indicators that gh changes in our body.

GH was developed for people with pathologies associated with growth hormone. And to measure gh by igf is about the same way as measuring the amount of testosterone in the blood, using an analysis on the estrogen. Yes, there is a direct relationship between the exponent gh and igf, but how much igf rises depends only on the susceptibility of the organism to the drug. By the way, the fashion for IGF tests came quite recently, before that STH and even the GH content in the blood was measured. But the most stable and important indicator for bodybuilding is IGF.


Therefore, the answer to the question - how much will IGF increase from 1IU GH - by as much as IGF synthesizes your body, and this indicator will be different for each person.
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I'll try to explain. IGF is not GH.

And pharmacy drugs have never been developed as IGF booster. This is just one of the indicators that gh changes in our body.

GH was developed for people with pathologies associated with growth hormone. And to measure gh by igf is about the same way as measuring the amount of testosterone in the blood, using an analysis on the estrogen. Yes, there is a direct relationship between the exponent gh and igf, but how much igf rises depends only on the susceptibility of the organism to the drug. By the way, the fashion for IGF tests came quite recently, before that STH and even the GH content in the blood was measured. But the most stable and important indicator for bodybuilding is IGF.


Therefore, the answer to the question - how much will IGF increase from 1IU GH - by as much as IGF synthesizes your body, and this indicator will be different for each person.
I think the issue bro comes back to 1 simple fact. Chads results. Same guy, same dose, 2 different brands of GH. 1 scored higher igf levels compared to the other.

I'm not taking sides here, just pointing out a simple reality.
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I think the issue bro comes back to 1 simple fact. Chads results. Same guy, same dose, 2 different brands of GH. 1 scored higher igf levels compared to the other.

I'm not taking sides here, just pointing out a simple reality.
If you want high IGF - you can just buy IGF. Why only for the IGF to GH use?

And I can't answer this question. Unfortunately I have no Black tops for research. I can check Ansomone, and ensure its purity and composition of amino acids, but I see no reason to spend 1400$ on something that I already know. And I'm pretty sure that there is no GH boosters because its main purpose clearly lies in the plane of the mass for bodybuilding.

And by the way, why listen to me? I'm just another seller hgh )
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I would like to recall one old story, this story is already 10 years - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...australia.film


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Monday 21 May 2007 14.08 BST
Stallone guilty of importing growth hormone into Australia

... judge in the state of New South Wales instructed the 60-year-old actor to pay A$13,000 (5,400) after failing to obtain a valid prescription for the human growth hormone Jintropin on a visit to the country....
I think this guy has the ability to buy any GH in the world, but he chose Jintropin. I think he just does not know about the black tops of unknown origin, which show results much better. Or vice versa, he knows that something that can not be measured by the IGF level.
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If you want high IGF - you can just buy IGF. Why only for the IGF to GH use?

And I can't answer this question. Unfortunately I have no Black tops for research. I can check Ansomone, and ensure its purity and composition of amino acids, but I see no reason to spend 1400$ on something that I already know. And I'm pretty sure that there is no GH boosters because its main purpose clearly lies in the plane of the mass for bodybuilding.

And by the way, why listen to me? I'm just another seller hgh )
There is no real igf as far as I'm aware. The shit sold in the peptide shops "igf-lr3" is crap.
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holly shit you are retaining water you are not going that muscle thats water it takes a lot longer to build muscle than 3 weeks on anything.

no you are wrong alpha what Evers are really low so that makes him bad? a lie is a lie low is low you can not let him say he is selling 100iu and they are bot 100iu why is this so hard to understand?

if you buy my car you think its ok to give me 1000 dollars when we made deal for 1200 dollars? fuck no whats the difference?

someone needs to chime in your blind and select is a scammer and proven liar jump in the fire do you guys not agree if you pay for 100iu you should get 100IUs ? someone fucking reply
I've been reading this whole thread and both bouncer and rocket make great points. I can't speak for select because I purchased from world. But the hygetropin I got was under dosed for sure. But the price is low. Now if the jins test low also, then that might make rockets point. Rockets black tops are the same price as the jins and the test scores are showing great numbers from chadd post. Now if it has 192 in it we don't know. But all this hgh might have it in it to raise the igf levels. Who really knows what's in all these kits. We don't have a lab to run the tests. Rocket thank you for the honesty about your opinion it goes far. Bouncer you also had good points on the topic for sure. I'm still really new to this game and this was great information. I'm not sure how sponsorship works on these sites but people come here for great information and to trust your sponcers. So I'm glad to see people posting the numbers of each hgh to make there desicion on what to purchase. Thanks again chadd for everything you have tested. I'm still waiting on a few kits from world/jintropin.us (sorry select for mentioning them on your thread) to come in and im testing it for sure. I still want to run those black tops rocket has also.like I said I'm here to find the best product for a good price. As of right now rocket has the best price with the best numbers. And he is not even a dealer like he said just a member looking out for people. Thanks again guys and I hope everyone could get a long again

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This is a bad comparison. We have a fundamental disagreement here on what makes a scammer. Let me explain.

A more direct comparison is if someone sells you weed that does the job and gets you high but maybe not quite as high as you were expecting. That's not necessarily a scam by the dealer. That's more a question of quality and supply. You wouldn't scream "scammer" if your weed dealer gave you good weed but not amazing weed. You would just say "ehh it could be better". A true scam would be ordering 10 vials of weed and only receiving 6 from the dealer. That is an intentional scam and that is NOT what is going on here.

A scammer does not send out tons of free products to people and say "please get bloodwork and post honest results" as select has done on multiple occasions. A scammer does not pull a product from his shelves (alphatrop) when it tested so poorly. Why would a scammer ask people to post honest test results if they knew what they were selling was junk in the first place? Admit it rocket, that makes zero sense.

Chad ran ansomeones and he felt the sides. He wanted to get them tested and lower the dose because the sides were too much if I'm not mistaken. I'm running select GH and I am not bullshitting when I say I am feeling and seeing the results. There is no coverup here bro, all results are posted and nothing is edited. your trying to make me out to be the fucken devil and you're just wrong.

My main disagreement here with you is the scammer label. IMO the actions of select are actually the opposite of a scammer.

I have no argument with you about the whole pharm grade vs generic with fancy stickers thing because I have no proof one way or another to dispute that. So that is not my argument with you. Our argument is about what makes a scammer.

I think if people are honest and not afraid of arguing with you they would tell you that you have been a little over the top about this issue. I think most people here disagree with you on the scammer issue. Hell, select has even shown interest in buying a bunch of the blacktops and selling them, you wont allow him to do that. Why would a scammer show interest in selling a product that you yourself say is top notch? If this is all about the members, allow him to purchase the blacktops and sell them. That way more people can get there hands on them. Why would that be a bad thing?
he wants my black tops cuz the are a real 10ius
if you allow him to keep on his website or advertise his boxes as 100iu per box he is a fucking liar and you are backing him.
your friends with bass. are you ok with me asking this question on his board and linking the reply? I bet you 5000 bucks not one person at all agrees with you and they all including bass say that his bull shit. I know for a fact Bass would pull him as a sponsor if he had any.
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