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Old 05-01-17, 12:33 PM
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I've been training for 6 months now. Mostly I'm on whey protein and pre workout. Im looking for supplements that could help me in gaining more muscle .


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Creatine 5 grams a day..i would also recommend a non essential amino acid like glutamine whic slightly increase HGH levels and an amino acid that can help increase the volume of muscle cells and repair.. 10-15 grams a day.. pre and post work out shake

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And you need to eat!! Would be nice if you put up your stats

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Suppliment with vitamin D3 as well. Most people are deficient. It increases muscle protein synthesis.
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My weight is 81.
Height is 5"11
My waist is 34"
Don't know the body fat. Never checked it.
Daily protein meet- 50-60 GMs of protein
Carbs - no calculative measure.

Mostly rely on carbs for getting bulked.


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Protein needs to be 3-4 times higher. Protein is the building block of muscle.

Real food is most important. Training is second. Supplements are a distant 3rd. Basic whey, creatine, fish oil.
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Can I rely only on shakes. Because my work doesn't support me to eat choosy


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Can I rely only on shakes. Because my work doesn't support me to eat choosy


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No, absolutely not. The definition of a "supplement" is to support your main diet. Without a solid real food diet you won't get very far. The body was designed for real food. Shakes only place is PWO imo.
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Correct, so changing the diet is the only thing I need to do go for now ?


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Like Bouncy stated protein is stapled diet for musclr growth, but you need them carbs for muscle glycogen.. take in at least 1-1.5 grams of protein per bodyweight..
I'm assuming you mean 81 kilos..
Then you need minimum 180 grams of protein IMO.. shoot for 200..
Ehhhh.. you get sick and tired of drinking all them shakes and it will get costly.. 2 shakes a day is fine.. lean proteins, veggies and carbs..
Use an app fitpal to track your macros...
5'11 81 kilos that's pretty small

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Give creatine hcl hydrochloride a try if you haven't started a creatine yet. Hear it starts to work much faster. Good luck!!
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Sure. Will download the fitness app and will post the macros.
Piratex- Haven't tried anything except Cellucor before the workout. And Phase 8 after the work out.


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Give creatine hcl hydrochloride a try if you haven't started a creatine yet. Hear it starts to work much faster. Good luck!!
Disagree. Monohydrate has by a mile the most studies. It's tried, tested, and true. Monohydrate has literally thousands of scientific studies backing it up. Hcl has almost none and if they do they were funded by the support company selling it.

Monohrdrate pwo with whey and Gatorade. Perfect pwo shake.
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Can I take just monohydrate instead of cellucor C4?


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Can I take just monohydrate instead of cellucor C4?


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Well C4 is a preworkout with caffeine and a bunch of other shit for energy. Monohydrate is not that. It's just creatine best suited for pwo.
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Got it bouncer. Will go for creatine monohydrate for pwo.


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Trying to shoot to 200 GMs protein per day. But I guess I'm only meeting 100. Any likely suggestions to get it on


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Chicken, fish (canned tuna or anchovies are easy to carry around), lean pork, lean beef, beans, chickpeas, etc. Just stay away from sugary drinks and processed food and its easy to eat a bunch of protein. I still eat sort of crappy, compared to a couple of these guys, but its from mostly whole foods. Here is an example of a day where I ate poorly. Even then I hit over 200g of protein.

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Thank you for that. Will try going up with Canned tuna


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Just buy chicken breasts and prepare it before the day starts. I personally stay away from canned tuna these days. Shredded chicken with a little avacado and sriracha in Tupperware kills canned tuna taste and quality wise imo.
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Bouncer, how much protein would one chicken breast weigh in approx.?


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Bouncer, how much protein would one chicken breast weigh in approx.?


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That really depends how they are cut bro, size of bird etc... They can range from 4 ounces to well over 12 ounces.

An average 6-7 ounce chicken breast is about 50 grams protein.
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Okay, gotta work on that first and then prepare the chart for myself.


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Hey guys. Starting my creatine from Monday. But can I use it everyday or do we hit a pause after a certain time ?


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Hey guys. Starting my creatine from Monday. But can I use it everyday or do we hit a pause after a certain time ?


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Everyday. No need to ever cycle or come off.
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It has a massive amount of research on it. Its pretty much safe to take for years on end.

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It has a massive amount of research on it. Its pretty much safe to take for years on end.

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People are to lazy to research now a days... they just want quick answers..

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I disagree with that boricuarage. Though the research is intense, the kind of articles that we find might not be true. Too many fake thins could be found too. Mostly funded by reputed companies .


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Most supplements that are shilled by the snake oil salesmen that populate the fitness industry are rubbish. The efficacy or safety of most of them have not been verified by careful scientific double blinded placebo-controlled trials. They are harmless at best, and sometimes downright dangerous. However, creatine is one of the few for which both the efficacy and safety have been reasonably verified.
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Thank you scrumhalf. Was looking for the reviews from people with more experience in the bodybuilding.


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People are to lazy to research now a days... they just want quick answers..

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Yet you recommended glutamine in your first post in this thread. LoL. Proven worthless supplement bro. Don't waste you're money on that crap bro. Does nothing. Seriously.
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Yet you recommended glutamine in your first post in this thread. LoL. Proven worthless supplement bro. Don't waste you're money on that crap bro. Does nothing. Seriously.
Wtf does that have to do with people being lazy!! Glutamine is in Bcaas and Whey.. so tell me how is it worthless.. I'm also looking at it @ a natural aspect.. meaning someone that does not take AAS...
5-10grams of Glut can be effective..
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Wtf does that have to do with people being lazy!! Glutamine is in Bcaas and Whey.. so tell me how is it worthless.. I'm also looking at it @ a natural aspect.. meaning someone that does not take AAS...
5-10grams of Glut can be effective..
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You recommended it at as a standalone supplement. Why not just say whey? Whey certainly has benefits.

Glutamine alone which was very popular in the bodybuilding community 15 years ago has been shown to have pretty much no muscle building benefits on it's own.

Don't get angry when someone corrects you on outdated information bro. We are here to learn not just agree with each other for the hell of it.

Had you said creatine monohydrate or whey I would have backed you up as something that has been tried, tested, and proven. Glutamine by itself has been debunked for years bro, regardless of whether you are natty or not.

It's nothing personal. Relax and learn bro. Don't just stick with outdated info and refuse to believe it simply because glutamine was popular when you got into lifting. You act like I attacked you personally or something. I just thought it was funny you called the guy out on being lazy about doing research but then recommended glutamine... "FU man".. lol.
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I didn't say whey cause he said he was already taking whey... all good...
I'm a Rican.. I'm sensitive like that....
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I would like to thank the people here , I'm finally making some progress with creatine for two weeks. I've put on 1.5 kg so far.


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You recommended it at as a standalone supplement. Why not just say whey? Whey certainly has benefits.

Glutamine alone which was very popular in the bodybuilding community 15 years ago has been shown to have pretty much no muscle building benefits on it's own.

Don't get angry when someone corrects you on outdated information bro. We are here to learn not just agree with each other for the hell of it.

Had you said creatine monohydrate or whey I would have backed you up as something that has been tried, tested, and proven. Glutamine by itself has been debunked for years bro, regardless of whether you are natty or not.

It's nothing personal. Relax and learn bro. Don't just stick with outdated info and refuse to believe it simply because glutamine was popular when you got into lifting. You act like I attacked you personally or something. I just thought it was funny you called the guy out on being lazy about doing research but then recommended glutamine... "FU man".. lol.
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I am also looking for the same supplements. Which body building supplements are you using guy for body and muscle building?
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I am also looking for the same supplements. Which body building supplements are you using guy for body and muscle building?
You need creatine and whey isolate

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The only supplement worth taking other than AAS is creatine. And as bori suggests, protein powder if you are not getting enough protein in your diet.

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Creatine from Ultimate Nutrition
Whey Protein from Vigor Fuel


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Hello people. I've been putting on considerable weight with good food plan. However what do we do for the fat loss. And any specific test to measure the body fat


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Friends, I'm planning to include BCAA and fish oil in my routine. Any specific things to be seen for getting these ?


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Fish oil is fine. Bcaa is worthless.
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Noted. Then I'll kick out the BCAA.


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I wouldn't say that. It is putting several supplement company CEOs' kids through college.

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Guys - what is the best way to cut down the fat.

Iím working out for 90 min with a split of two body parts and cardio in the end. The cardio lasts for 15-20 min. The main target is to attain the distance. I close it around 2kms.


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