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Old 07-19-17, 09:26 AM
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The lady told me "we just got a package in for you from Russia but the carrier has already left. Do you want to come pick it up?" I said "from Russia, huh. No, that's ok. just deliver it tomorrow. That's fine".

I am freaking out a little. Is this going to be a controlled delivery? Why would they call like that? Why not just set it aside for tomorrow's mail? They said it was labelled as sports supplements. Could you be any more obvious? Why didn't he just label it "illegal growth hormone"? FUCK!
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If it were me, if someone delivered it by person I would not accept it. If it was dropped off I would set it aside for a couple weeks and then take it somewhere in the middle of nowhere and open it up. I dont know what it looks like but the police can put a device in the package that signals them when its open. If you find anything like that drop your gear off at a good buddies and lay low. But I am overly paranoid.

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Lol sorry bro, but that sounds funny...
You be fine.. Avid is exagerrating a bit.. who the hell got time to put a tracking device on a package when Homeland got other shit to worry about other than suppliments

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I'm definitely not answering the door tomorrow. They can leave that shit on the porch and I'll take it somewhere else to open it. I don't have anything else illegal yet so my house is relatively clean. I do have syringes and I'm not a diabetic. I could say it's for the tb-500.

Shit, that's not quite true. I have those fina pellets and I don't own any cattle. I should get those out of my house today.
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I'm definitely not answering the door tomorrow. They can leave that shit on the porch and I'll take it somewhere else to open it. I don't have anything else illegal yet so my house is relatively clean. I do have syringes and I'm not a diabetic. I could say it's for the tb-500.

Shit, that's not quite true. I have those fina pellets and I don't own any cattle. I should get those out of my house today.
You are in Ga? If so, syringes aren't illegal. If for some reason cops searched your house (highly doubt), don't say shit about syringes. You aren't breaking the law, so don't say shit.

Why would they call and warn you if they did want to set up a controlled delivery?
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If it were me, if someone delivered it by person I would not accept it. If it was dropped off I would set it aside for a couple weeks and then take it somewhere in the middle of nowhere and open it up. I dont know what it looks like but the police can put a device in the package that signals them when its open. If you find anything like that drop your gear off at a good buddies and lay low. But I am overly paranoid.

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I'm definitely not answering the door tomorrow. They can leave that shit on the porch and I'll take it somewhere else to open it. I don't have anything else illegal yet so my house is relatively clean. I do have syringes and I'm not a diabetic. I could say it's for the tb-500.

Shit, that's not quite true. I have those fina pellets and I don't own any cattle. I should get those out of my house today.
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You are in Ga? If so, syringes aren't illegal. If for some reason cops searched your house (highly doubt), don't say shit about syringes. You aren't breaking the law, so don't say shit.

Why would they call and warn you if they did want to set up a controlled delivery?
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I'm in NC. I'll have to look up state laws about syringes.

It's just weird they would call me at all. They've never called me before. I am sure late mail is routine there. I don't think they would call everybody every time there's mail for them that missed the day's mail.
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If you don't answer the door you won't get the pack. It's sig required.

Nobody is doing a controlled delivery on a kit or 2 of GH. Lol
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Shit. That's going to be nerve racking. If I get popped it's really going to fuck up my life.
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Shit. That's going to be nerve racking. If I get popped it's really going to fuck up my life.
Once you have the pack and realize how easy it was and realize the post office was just trying to be nice since it's an Express package to give you the option to come pick it up you will laugh at how much your over reacting. I've done this 10,000 times bro. They don't give a flying fuck about personal use GH.
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I fervently hope you are right. First thing I'm going to do is write "return to sender" across the top in big black marker. Then, if it is a CD, I can always claim I didn't know about it but opened it out of curiosity and was sending it back. Don't know if that would fly but maybe....
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Relax Man... I got busted for distributing steroids and had tons of shit at home... they did not once come to my place

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If you don't answer the door you won't get the pack. It's sig required.

Nobody is doing a controlled delivery on a kit or 2 of GH. Lol
That's Bullshit.. at least in Germany... if the shit fits in the mail box you ain't got a sign for it.. happens to me many times with gear cause it fits

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How the hell do you think they catch the big fish? They go up the food chain. Yes controlled deliveries happen to users with what we would consider small amounts and yes they do put devices in the boxes. Simply accepting the package is enough to have them swarm the house, arrest you and make you talk. Law enforcement uses all kinds of tools and tactics to get to the top.

We are dealing with using the mail to move illegal drugs. Don't pretend normal people don't get caught. Jerry Ward did a video where he explained how he has friends in jail right now that we're just busted buying personal use steroids. Check other forums. It happens.

Personally I would not sign for anything, I would not answer the door, if they set it down let it sit there for a day or 2, take it for a drive and open it somewhere else. Best case scenario is nothing happens but if the possibility is there to ruin your life then take the precautions.

Here is a story about one such controlled delivery:
Here’s a controlled delivery story from Maryland. I’m reproducing it here in the client’s very own words, just as he sent it to me by e-mail, with only a couple of minor but necessary identity changes:

I was washing my car at approximately 11:00 a.m. when the postman approached with a package. He asked if the address was 1628 and I answered yes and took the package. I set the package down in the garage area and continued to dry my car off. At this time unmarked vehicles swarmed the driveway, a tall male got out the car closest to me and asked if I was [name]. When I answered yes he immediately handcuffed me and said I was under arrest for possession of narcotics and they had a warrant to search the premises. He then proceeded to walk me into the garage area while other agents entered the house. Moments later they came back out and said, “We’re clear.”

I was then escorted into the house and sat down in the kitchen. I asked to see the warrant and the tall male informed me that it was not my property, and my parents would see it when they got home. They did not have a warrant at this time because phone calls were being made to see if they had it yet. Also, other agents were complaining about the process of getting a warrant, saying that it took too long to get a hold of the judge in many cases. I was questioned about the contents of the package that was delivered and told them I didn’t know. It was labeled as PC software, so I told them it probably was. I received packages quite regularly, and explained the return address didn’t sound familiar but I do sign up to receive free items quite often. An officer then showed me two packages that had been stopped by Customs and asked what I knew about them, and I told him I knew nothing about them. They asked me if I had any drugs in the house and I told him I had some capsules of DNP, an abbreviation for 2,4 dinitrophenol, a legal pesticide. I showed two agents where the DNP was located, and told them I also had some white pills that I could not identify.

I was then walked back into the kitchen. One agent began asking me for general information (name, address, phone # etc.) but he was interrupted by a female officer because she wanted to read me my rights. Other agents were searching the yard and other rooms in the home. The officers again began to question me about the package, trying to intimidate me. At this time a female officer opened the parcel and inside were twelve ampoules of Sustanon 250. They asked me what they were and by reading the label I was able to tell them the Sustanon looked to be testosterone. I was told I was a “low man on their totem pole” and they hadn’t been very busy lately. They said if the drugs were for someone else, I should call that person and they would arrest him instead of me. I also was questioned about some old friends and they said they could make things a lot easier on me if I would sign up to be a confidential informant and help them make a few busts. I was also questioned about who was growing pot in the area. I told them I didn’t know because I got myself out of that life many years ago.

At this time another female officer was left to “baby-sit” me while the officer who was questioning me went to search the vehicles including a 1993 Dodge that it was later discovered was not on the search warrant. At one point an agent came out and said, “We have a whole pharmacy back there.” They continued to badger me into cooperation and tell them about the drugs and it was at this time I invoked my Miranda rights. The tall male that made the arrest said my mother was on her way home. Not much more was said and a little later the agents brought out two large paper bags, a desktop computer, and a rifle from my room. When an officer asked if I should stay until my mother arrived, the tall male explained that he did not really call her. No one was notified of my arrest during this search and I was not able to call a lawyer when I requested, which I thought I had the right to do as an American citizen. The arresting officer even told me a lawyer couldn’t do anything for except tell me to sit there and cooperate. He said I would have an opportunity to do so at the detention center.
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But you are in Germany, right? Laws are different here and now with AG Sessions talking up a crack down on drugs, that might go a bit differently here.

Honestly, I have been out of the game for 10 years (aside from the little cycle I did 3 years ago that didn't include any risks of CD) Back then, the risk was greater and everyone guarded source info to the max. No one would give you a source if you hadn't been around a while and earned some trust. I used to read about CDs all the time. Now, I get on this board and there are like 8 sources that are board sponsors and have banners at the top. I pm'd Bouncer and was like WTF. No way it is that easy now, is it? Back in the day, if someone disappeared from the boards for an extended time, people suspected they had been compromised and no one would trust them for a long time. I expected that here when I joined and was really surprised (pleasantly) not to be treated with suspicion. I say all that to explain why I am reacting like this. I am used to a more paranoid time, LOL.

So, Bouncer, would you go to the post office and pick it up?
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Yea, but Germany is like 5 times more strict than the US.. I wouldn't be allowed to order anything from Russia

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How the hell do you think they catch the big fish? They go up the food chain. Yes controlled deliveries happen to users with what we would consider small amounts and yes they do put devices in the boxes. Simply accepting the package is enough to have them swarm the house, arrest you and make you talk. Law enforcement uses all kinds of tools and tactics to get to the top.

We are dealing with using the mail to move illegal drugs. Don't pretend normal people don't get caught. Jerry Ward did a video where he explained how he has friends in jail right now that we're just busted buying personal use steroids. Check other forums. It happens.

Personally I would not sign for anything, I would not answer the door, if they set it down let it sit there for a day or 2, take it for a drive and open it somewhere else. Best case scenario is nothing happens but if the possibility is there to ruin your life then take the precautions.

Here is a story about one such controlled delivery:
Here’s a controlled delivery story from Maryland. I’m reproducing it here in the client’s very own words, just as he sent it to me by e-mail, with only a couple of minor but necessary identity changes:

I was washing my car at approximately 11:00 a.m. when the postman approached with a package. He asked if the address was 1628 and I answered yes and took the package. I set the package down in the garage area and continued to dry my car off. At this time unmarked vehicles swarmed the driveway, a tall male got out the car closest to me and asked if I was [name]. When I answered yes he immediately handcuffed me and said I was under arrest for possession of narcotics and they had a warrant to search the premises. He then proceeded to walk me into the garage area while other agents entered the house. Moments later they came back out and said, “We’re clear.”

I was then escorted into the house and sat down in the kitchen. I asked to see the warrant and the tall male informed me that it was not my property, and my parents would see it when they got home. They did not have a warrant at this time because phone calls were being made to see if they had it yet. Also, other agents were complaining about the process of getting a warrant, saying that it took too long to get a hold of the judge in many cases. I was questioned about the contents of the package that was delivered and told them I didn’t know. It was labeled as PC software, so I told them it probably was. I received packages quite regularly, and explained the return address didn’t sound familiar but I do sign up to receive free items quite often. An officer then showed me two packages that had been stopped by Customs and asked what I knew about them, and I told him I knew nothing about them. They asked me if I had any drugs in the house and I told him I had some capsules of DNP, an abbreviation for 2,4 dinitrophenol, a legal pesticide. I showed two agents where the DNP was located, and told them I also had some white pills that I could not identify.

I was then walked back into the kitchen. One agent began asking me for general information (name, address, phone # etc.) but he was interrupted by a female officer because she wanted to read me my rights. Other agents were searching the yard and other rooms in the home. The officers again began to question me about the package, trying to intimidate me. At this time a female officer opened the parcel and inside were twelve ampoules of Sustanon 250. They asked me what they were and by reading the label I was able to tell them the Sustanon looked to be testosterone. I was told I was a “low man on their totem pole” and they hadn’t been very busy lately. They said if the drugs were for someone else, I should call that person and they would arrest him instead of me. I also was questioned about some old friends and they said they could make things a lot easier on me if I would sign up to be a confidential informant and help them make a few busts. I was also questioned about who was growing pot in the area. I told them I didn’t know because I got myself out of that life many years ago.

At this time another female officer was left to “baby-sit” me while the officer who was questioning me went to search the vehicles including a 1993 Dodge that it was later discovered was not on the search warrant. At one point an agent came out and said, “We have a whole pharmacy back there.” They continued to badger me into cooperation and tell them about the drugs and it was at this time I invoked my Miranda rights. The tall male that made the arrest said my mother was on her way home. Not much more was said and a little later the agents brought out two large paper bags, a desktop computer, and a rifle from my room. When an officer asked if I should stay until my mother arrived, the tall male explained that he did not really call her. No one was notified of my arrest during this search and I was not able to call a lawyer when I requested, which I thought I had the right to do as an American citizen. The arresting officer even told me a lawyer couldn’t do anything for except tell me to sit there and cooperate. He said I would have an opportunity to do so at the detention center.
When did this happen and in what state?
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That's Bullshit.. at least in Germany... if the shit fits in the mail box you ain't got a sign for it.. happens to me many times with gear cause it fits

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in the us if its sig required they will not leave it.

lol @ you guys being scared over a kit of gh. they dont give a shit.
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When did this happen and in what state?
read bro its from maryland.

dont let it bother you. your gonna laugh once you realize you made such a big deal of this.
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id go pick it up or let it be delivered. I've done it a million times.

guys like chuck and avid are paranoid over everything. your not getting arrested over a kit of gh from russia. its not worth law enforcement time or money.

anyone can post a horror story about anything. people have died getting routine dental work done. doesnt mean its likely or probable. a guy in Maryland got popped. so what? people also get struck by lighting. get a grip.
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OK, I will sign for it but still nervous. Gonna write return to sender on it as soon as I close the door.
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By the way. If it was actually flagged and opened here is what would have happened.

It would have been seized by customs at JFK airport and you would have gotten a letter in the mail telling you it was seized and if you want to make a claim on it you can. Obviously you don't want to make a claim on it. LoL.

I had that happen to me back in the day. I had 500 Thai dbol tabs and 500 Thai winstrol tabs seized. They sent me a letter...

And here you are worried over a fucken kit. Lol.

Now if it was 20 kits and they could pop you for distribution then it would be worth their time.
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I'm glad I haven't ordered any gear yet.
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By the way. If it was actually flagged and opened here is what would have happened.

It would have been seized by customs at JFK airport and you would have gotten a letter in the mail telling you it was seized and if you want to make a claim on it you can. Obviously you don't want to make a claim on it. LoL.

I had that happen to me back in the day. I had 500 Thai dbol tabs and 500 Thai winstrol tabs seized. They sent me a letter...

And here you are worried over a fucken kit. Lol.

Now if it was 20 kits and they could pop you for distribution then it would be worth their time.
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your fine, i had to do the same... i was a little worried for no reason
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It's not a big deal. They should have had somebody else just deliver the package if the carrier was gone already. Go pick it up.
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I'm torn. I would like it today but I think it's smarter to wait for it to be delivered.
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I agree with bouncer. There's nothing to worry About if they wanted to pop you they would've done it differently


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I'm torn. I would like it today but I think it's smarter to wait for it to be delivered.
Okay, if it was a controlled delivery (which it's not) you think they are sitting at the post office all day today waiting in case you show up? I'd rather go to the post office when they don't know I'm coming then sitting at home waiting for them to come to my house.

Go get the pack... I work for the post office, trust me.
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Put on a hat, sunglasses and a trench coat...sneak around the post office and check all lateral routes in and out of it. Look for vans with radar dishes..all blacked out windows..or panel vans made to look like old plumbers or carpenter trucks. make sure you check all the sewer covers in the streets for recent opening.. you can take a bottle of white out and paint a line across the cover. If the line is broken..they have been in there. Check any and all dumpsters/ mail boxes..anything big enough for a surveillance camera or a swat team to hide in. Watch for small drones flying at high altitude so as not to be noticed... check roof tops/ trees with a view of the area within 1000 yds for snipers. If there are any window washers working in the area..leave as fast as you can..they always use that for a disguise.

I think I covered most of it...


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Give up, bro. Turn yourself in, you're going to jail.
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Okay, if it was a controlled delivery (which it's not) you think they are sitting at the post office all day today waiting in case you show up? I'd rather go to the post office when they don't know I'm coming then sitting at home waiting for them to come to my house.

Go get the pack... I work for the post office, trust me.
That's a good point. I told them I wasn't coming. They wouldn't wait around for me all day. OK, if you don't hear anything else about it, you know I'm in jail, LOL.
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Put on a hat, sunglasses and a trench coat...sneak around the post office and check all lateral routes in and out of it. Look for vans with radar dishes..all blacked out windows..or panel vans made to look like old plumbers or carpenter trucks. make sure you check all the sewer covers in the streets for recent opening.. you can take a bottle of white out and paint a line across the cover. If the line is broken..they have been in there. Check any and all dumpsters/ mail boxes..anything big enough for a surveillance camera or a swat team to hide in. Watch for small drones flying at high altitude so as not to be noticed... check roof tops/ trees with a view of the area within 1000 yds for snipers. If there are any window washers working in the area..leave as fast as you can..they always use that for a disguise.

I think I covered most of it...


I had to go to Post office and sign..no biggie
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OK, I went and picked it up. Nobody had kicked in the door yet, LOL.

Back in the day, I just synthesized what I needed from prohormones (they were legal then). I never even had to worry about CDs or anything like that. Being a synthetic chemist was a real asset, LOL. Now, I don't have access to a real lab and prohormones are just as illegal as the real thing. That just sucks.
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Old 07-19-17, 03:43 PM
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OK, I went and picked it up. Nobody had kicked in the door yet, LOL.

Back in the day, I just synthesized what I needed from prohormones (they were legal then). I never even had to worry about CDs or anything like that. Being a synthetic chemist was a real asset, LOL. Now, I don't have access to a real lab and prohormones are just as illegal as the real thing. That just sucks.
keep your orders personal use size. dont order 50 bottles of test at a time for example. you will never have a problem. they dont give a fuck about personal use. you have the same likelihood of getting popped for a personal order as you do winning a billion dollar lottery. yes it can happen but its very very unlikely. Law enforcement has budget guidelines they have to follow. The return investment on putting the money, effort and time into arresting and prosecuting a personal user for a kit of GH would be an absolutely horrible waste of money for them. Make no mistake, law enforcement is a business and they pick and choose what's worth their time. You are not worth their time.
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Old 07-19-17, 04:25 PM
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I damn near got killed on the way out of the post office parking lot. I was on my motorcycle and a tractor was coming past from the right going real slow. I started to pull out and some idiot went around the tractor, double yellow line and all, and nearly hit me head-on. If I hadn't jerked the handle bars to the right and nearly ditched it, I would be in the hospital right now or dead. I swear I felt the wind of his passing. He missed me by millimeters. I wrenched my shoulder in the process too so I am in a lot of pain right now. Mother fucker's lucky I didn't hunt his ass down and shoot him.
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Old 07-19-17, 04:27 PM
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a tractor. lol. you southern fuckers are funny.
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Old 07-19-17, 04:32 PM
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I live way out in the boonies man. That's ok though. Small town people are cool. Everybody knows everybody. I am originally from way up north though. After more than 20 years down here, I still can't get used to the summer heat. Supposed to be triple digit temps for the next couple days. I stay inside and hug the fucking air conditioner like we're engaged.
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Old 07-19-17, 05:36 PM
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Had you got in an accident and not posted for awhile I have no doubt at all that chuck and avid would have been saying "I told you guys he got busted".
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Old 07-19-17, 05:37 PM
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You got that right! Lol
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Old 07-19-17, 05:54 PM
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Old 07-19-17, 07:18 PM
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now you can take your tampon out and relax
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