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Old 02-28-19, 05:03 PM
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Old 02-28-19, 06:35 PM
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If I had to pick an age I guess I'd say when it really starts to decline in the 40's.

Of course if it's for bodybuilding the age would obviously be younger.

I assume you're just talking about overall health.

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I know a guy looks at leastn10-20 years younger than his age started GH around 40s still bodybuilding swears itís the GH think heís in his 60s

My answer would be when your ready to stop Aas or slow it down give the bossy a break around 40s
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Old 03-01-19, 06:33 AM
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Another guy 68 was on for 10 years Looked like he was in late 40s
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Iím sure I sound like a broken record but I love GH. It allows me to run a minimal dose of test and still able to make gains in the gym. Iím much fuller and recover so much quicker. I run a minimal does too. I canít imagine the gains I would make if I ran it at a bodybuilding dose.
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Old 03-01-19, 10:45 AM
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a "bodybuilding" dose would do nothing but fuck you up. don't be one of these fags that say "imagine what i would be on such and such a dose".

seriously though. shit would do nothing but distort your body and make you more and more insulin resistant.

get this shit. dave palumbo is like 5'8 but he has a size 15 shoe size. that's what "bodybuilding dose" does to you. turns you into fucken bozo the clown.

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Old 03-01-19, 12:55 PM
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a "bodybuilding" dose would do nothing but fuck you up. don't be one of these fags that say "imagine what i would be on such and such a dose".

seriously though. shit would do nothing but distort your body and make you more and more insulin resistant.

get this shit. dave palumbo is like 5'8 but he has a size 15 shoe size. that's what "bodybuilding dose" does to you. turns you into fucken bozo the clown.

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Up to 4iu Ed is good to go ? Any more than that you risk insulin desensitisation
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Old 03-01-19, 02:23 PM
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Up to 4iu Ed is good to go ? Any more than that you risk insulin desensitisation
Yea then you gotta use slin to actually keep you from going diabetic. Weird paradox.

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Even at 4iu a day I think you risk insulin resistance after a couple years. Taking 3-4iu of insulin with your shot is no big deal though.
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Yea then you gotta use slin to actually keep you from going diabetic. Weird paradox.

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Itís not how many iuís you run itís what your IGF-1 levels are at. No way to know if 4iu is safe dose or not unless you get blood work done. My current batch there is no way I can run 4iu as my numbers were over 700. I tried to keep my levels under 400.
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Itís not how many iuís you run itís what your IGF-1 levels are at. No way to know if 4iu is safe dose or not unless you get blood work done. My current batch there is no way I can run 4iu as my numbers were over 700. I tried to keep my levels under 400.
Yes true, good point. Igf levels not iu specificly.

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So an igf level up to 400 is safe, tested when? 1 hr after sub q gh?

And what happens over 400? Hypo and insulin desensitise ?
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Anyway itís 1 March so letís se where I can get to with gh by june
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Also, whatís the latest on next time to take it and if you need t3 or t4
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I wouldnít mess with thyroid stuff at your age
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Also, whatís the latest on next time to take it and if you need t3 or t4
Keep it simple. If the gh is high quality it will raise your igf levels regardless of time of day you take shot. The higher igf levels is what gives you the physical results. Don't fuck with thyroid.

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I wouldnít mess with thyroid stuff at your age
Lol

I kind of feel duplicitous about this, we generally agree on here that replaced hormones are best used wen natural ones are in decline...

However, I donít like the feeling of taking thyroid
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Keep it simple. If the gh is high quality it will raise your igf levels regardless of time of day you take shot. The higher igf levels is what gives you the physical results. Don't fuck with thyroid.

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I had a little play with clen recently, topped out st 40mcg Ed, it was rough, couldnít take it, but in 2 eeeks it literally tore fat off me.

Letís see what gh does in 3 months
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Rockets trt dr. likes to keep him at 350.

Run your dose for 2+ weeks then test. Itís a simple test and no fasting is required.
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I had a little play with clen recently, topped out st 40mcg Ed, it was rough, couldnít take it, but in 2 eeeks it literally tore fat off me.

Letís see what gh does in 3 months
I donít know how you deal with the racing heart rate from clen.

I just started test and eq and HR has gone from about 70 to 95. Getting anxiety. Already thinking about throwing the stuff in the bin and just staying on Gh.
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Rockets trt dr. likes to keep him at 350.

Run your dose for 2+ weeks then test. Itís a simple test and no fasting is required.
Where can I buy the test?
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Where can I buy the test?
You don't "buy the test" you go get blood work and request igf test.

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Jeez what an expensive drag

Chad how many iu you take each day?
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I feel I was ready at 30 years old ,my maturity level was better and I had put 12. Years in the gym prior,and felt it was time to step up to hgh I'm very glad I did ,love the stuff
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Jeez what an expensive drag

Chad how many iu you take each day?
I still have one kit left before I start my new batch. Currently Iím running 3.33iu but Iíll drop to 2.5iu when I start my new kits.

For me it cost about $60 to get blood work done. Definitely worth it to know how to dose your GH. And to know you didnít get ripped off. I usually buy a years worth which is the same batch. Then you only need to test once that year.
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I was talking to a guy today and he says the simple way to test if you have insulin issues is to test your blood sugar first thing in the morning before food. Should be between 5.5 and 6 something
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I was talking to a guy today and he says the simple way to test if you have insulin issues is to test your blood sugar first thing in the morning before food. Should be between 5.5 and 6 something
Thats what I do. I think when it gets below around 4 is hypo. I have a high carb meal and it will shoot up to around 13-14 sometimes.
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Thats what I do. I think when it gets below around 4 is hypo. I have a high carb meal and it will shoot up to around 13-14 sometimes.
So if the igf response is over 400, you run the risk of the bodyís own insulin not working as it should, to bring blood sugars down? So youíd be over 6.5
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So if the igf response is over 400, you run the risk of the bodyís own insulin not working as it should, to bring blood sugars down? So youíd be over 6.5
Something like that. I just run insulin with it so i don't risk it.
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Something like that. I just run insulin with it so i don't risk it.
Really you do that? You were never into your training when I was last on here

Anyway insulin inj is a step too far for me lol
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Really you do that? You were never into your training when I was last on here

Anyway insulin inj is a step too far for me lol
Bro ive been training for over 20 years on and off now. I had a period of about 3 years where I didn't train and got off everything. Mainly because of a torn ligament in my shoulder and dating a girl who was against the gear use. That was the time I think you were referring to.

I have only been experimenting with insulin for about two months and never for more than a week at a time. It Definitely makes you fuller. Looking forward to running it 4 weeks in a row and seeing what happens. I think apart from the "hypo" it has a lot less sides than gear. You have to be pretty retarded to fuck it up though
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So if the igf response is over 400, you run the risk of the bodyís own insulin not working as it should, to bring blood sugars down? So youíd be over 6.5
If you were looking to run it long term Iíd keep it closer to 350. If youíre going to run it up higher than that just be sure you take some time off or drop it to more of a trt dose.
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If you were looking to run it long term Iíd keep it closer to 350. If youíre going to run it up higher than that just be sure you take some time off or drop it to more of a trt dose.
Iím looking at doing 4 iu Ed to begin and then dropping to 2iu after a few weeks
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Iím looking at doing 4 iu Ed to begin and then dropping to 2iu after a few weeks
To me that is a good strategy
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I will say this, Iím feeling great on it and my skin already looks more lively.

I will probably now drop my test dose back from 500mg ow to 250 and see how I go. I just feel so much more enthused
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