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If he continues to be Mr O bodybuilding will continue to die. My theory is the powers that be know this, expect a new Mr O this year.

Huh just like when Arnold looked like shit in the 80 and still won... and I mean shit in MR. O standard's

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Originally Posted by boricuarage79

Huh just like when Arnold looked like shit in the 80 and still won... and I mean shit in MR. O standard's

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Hopefully the people that run the show are more wise these days. He's such a terrible "leader for bodybuilding". I still say Cedric would be great. His Arnold win and speech (aside from the humping) was epic and inspirational. If he can improve on his Arnold win and come in even better he is a serious threat.

Bodybuilding needs charisma and height. Not a little narrow clavicle, no abdomen, zero personality little faggot that just happens to have a ton of 3D muscle. Props when due, yes he is a great bodybuilder but he isn't a leader in bodybuilding and he isn't a character that will sell tickets. He's gotta go.

Originally Posted by Bouncer

Hopefully the people that run the show are more wise these days. He's such a terrible "leader for bodybuilding". I still say Cedric would be great. His Arnold win and speech (aside from the humping) was epic and inspirational. If he can improve on his Arnold win and come in even better he is a serious threat.

Bodybuilding needs charisma and height. Not a little narrow clavicle, no abdomen, zero personality little faggot that just happens to have a ton of 3D muscle. Props when due, yes he is a great bodybuilder but he isn't a leader in bodybuilding and he isn't a character that will sell tickets. He's gotta go.

Yes dude I agree. His personality is shit. He doesn't have "it". He doesn't have a good back story. All he has is good genetics for 3D muscle. U see, Dorian Yates was the underdog from the U.K. Who busted his ass in the gym and changed the game for true mass monsters. Then you have Ronnie Coleman, the powerlifting police office turned bodybuilder and then there was jay the freak but Phil, only competed a couple times before turning pro and then couple years later he's MR.O. Gotta give him credit where credit is due but he's just missing something. He doesn't have charisma, and phil pretty much seems like an asshole.


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I gotta disagree. Are the judges going to interview him in front of the audience and ask him what he will accomplish as Mr. O, like world peace? Will they mark down points for character? What is this a fucking Ms America pageant? Who gives a shit what comes out of his mouth. This is a straight up contest of who looks the best on stage that day and Heath isn't going to be beaten by an inferior specimen for the sake of a "sport" with an already poor public opinion and reputation.

Originally Posted by chuckz28

I gotta disagree. Are the judges going to interview him in front of the audience and ask him what he will accomplish as Mr. O, like world peace? Will they mark down points for character? What is this a fucking Ms America pageant? Who gives a shit what comes out of his mouth. This is a straight up contest of who looks the best on stage that day and Heath isn't going to be beaten by an inferior specimen for the sake of a "sport" with an already poor public opinion and reputation.

He's been given multiple gifts as has every other Mr O at one point or another. So no it's not always about who looks best on a given day. Politics are huge and right now politics are against him. He's losing money for the ifbb. It's main "sport" is dieing under Phil Heath as Mr O, they need a new face.

Terrible midsection and no width. His gift is 3D muscle. He is very beatable by a spot on rhoden, Cedric, Ramy, Dexter. Phil's best days are behind him you fanboy faggot.

I think it's time for phil to meet his maker


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Originally Posted by Androman

I think it's time for phil to meet his maker


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If he's not at his all time best he will not win this year. Mark my words and remember the guru (me) who called it first. He's horrible for bodybuilding and the ifbb wants him out. I talk to all the top guys like luimarco does and I am really in the know on such matters.

No amount of politics or different Mr. Os will make the ifbb popular again. It's nothing more than a freakshow. No point in giving it to someone else.

Originally Posted by chuckz28

No amount of politics or different Mr. Os will make the ifbb popular again. It's nothing more than a freakshow. No point in giving it to someone else.

false.

think about Connor McGregor and what he does for the popularity of the UFC. think about what Arnold did for bodybuilding when nobody gave 2 fucks about lifting. you underestimate the power of a personality. phil is the worst ambassador for bodybuilding there has ever been. he is as dull as they come.

and i got news for you... its always been a freak show. Arnold was a freak to normal people in the 60's and 70's.

Super freak super freak super freakaaayyyyy


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This song goes out to most of the ifbb competitors who's ever been pro and currently are pro.

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Yeah but back when Arnold did it, it was completely unknown to the common person and the entire public was ignorant to the amount of drug usage used to achieve it. Show any average person these freaks wearing bikinis on stage and they know it is disgusting, and takes a bunch of drugs to get there. The bigger they get the worse public perception is, regardless of the head voice.

Bodybuilding is a niche sport and will stay that way. What Dorian is doing is possibly the only way to mainstream things to a level similar to CrossFit but it will never achieve the level it did when people didn't know about steroids and their negative stigma attached.

A good reason as to why it isn't going anywhere is lack of news coverage, or ways to watch it on TV. We will see this year if the Rock's venture into bringing it to live tv takes it anywhere but I still don't see any major difference to public opinion.

Originally Posted by Androman

ifbb competitors who's ever been pro and currently are pro.

makes no sense lol.

its like saying NFL players who are pro. are there any NFL players who aren't pro? you dumb shit.

Originally Posted by chuckz28

Yeah but back when Arnold did it, it was completely unknown to the common person and the entire public was ignorant to the amount of drug usage used to achieve it. Show any average person these freaks wearing bikinis on stage and they know it is disgusting, and takes a bunch of drugs to get there. The bigger they get the worse public perception is, regardless of the head voice.

Bodybuilding is a niche sport and will stay that way. What Dorian is doing is possibly the only way to mainstream things to a level similar to CrossFit but it will never achieve the level it did when people didn't know about steroids and their negative stigma attached.

A good reason as to why it isn't going anywhere is lack of news coverage, or ways to watch it on TV. We will see this year if the Rock's venture into bringing it to live tv takes it anywhere but I still don't see any major difference to public opinion.

agree on all points. but having a Mr O of the people who has a great personality and represents bodybuilding in a more exciting way would certainly not be a bad thing.

Originally Posted by Bouncer

makes no sense lol.



its like saying NFL players who are pro. are there any NFL players who aren't pro? you dumb shit.

lol I went numb during the process of typing that


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Big Ramy is the next Mr.O


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Originally Posted by Androman

Big Ramy is the next Mr.O


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Nah, needs to speak better English and be more involved with Western society first.

Cedric is the next Mr O.

Originally Posted by Bouncer

Nah, needs to speak better English and be more involved with Western society first.

Cedric is the next Mr O.

No. Ur confusing the guy ur sexually attracted to with the guy who's actually going to be the next mr.o


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Originally Posted by Bouncer

Nah, needs to speak better English and be more involved with Western society first.

Cedric is the next Mr O.

Bouncer I will bet you a bottle of Testosterone that Big Ramy will place higher than Cedric this year.


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Originally Posted by Androman

Bouncer I will bet you a bottle of Testosterone that Big Ramy will place higher than Cedric this year.


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Nah you're not getting what I'm saying.

If Phil wins again then yes I agree Ramy will place ahead of Cedric. But if they are going to give the title to someone else it's not going to be Ramy.

So either Cedric wins or he places 5-6th place.

All things being fair and just going by the biggest and best. I agree it's Ramy. But I'm talking about the politics of it all.

Originally Posted by Bouncer

Nah you're not getting what I'm saying.

If Phil wins again then yes I agree Ramy will place ahead of Cedric. But if they are going to give the title to someone else it's not going to be Ramy.

So either Cedric wins or he places 5-6th place.

All things being fair and just going by the biggest and best. I agree it's Ramy. But I'm talking about the politics of it all.

We'll see what happens. Have u seen Ramy being interviewed right after posing?


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