SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums
Register Members Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   SuperiorMuscle.com - Bodybuilding Forums > Superior Discussion Section > General Chat
Reload this Page The Threat To Democracy From The Far Left

General Chat Off-Topic Discussion


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Bouncer

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-16-18, 09:20 AM
The Threat To Democracy From The Far Left
  #1
 
Bouncer's Avatar
 
Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: WILD WEST
Likes: 11339
This was written by Fareed Zakaria from CNN's GPS show. He's the best mind on CNN IMO. Always comes from a perspective of facts without bias or at least he tries not to have a bias. He got his BA at Yale and his PhD at Harvard. When he has something to say I usually listen..

_______________________________

By Fareed Zakaria

For several years now, scholars have argued that the world is experiencing a “democratic recession.” They have noted that the movement of countries toward democracy has slowed or stopped and even, in some places, reversed. They also note a general hollowing out of democracy in the advanced, industrial world. When we think about this problem, inevitably and rightly we worry about President Trump, his attacks on judges, the free press and his own Justice Department. But there is also a worrying erosion of a core democratic norm taking place on the left.

It has become commonplace to hear cries on the left to deny controversial figures on the right a platform to express their views. Colleges have disinvited speakers such as Condoleezza Rice and Charles Murray. Other campuses were unwilling or unable to allow conservative guests to actually speak, with protests overwhelming the events.

A similar controversy now involves Stephen K. Bannon, who, in recent months, has been making the rounds on the airwaves and in print — including an interview I did with him on CNN. Some have claimed that Bannon, since leaving the administration, is simply unimportant and irrelevant and thus shouldn’t be given a microphone. But if that were the case, surely the media, which after all is a for-profit industry, would notice the lack of public interest and stop inviting him.

The reality is that the people running the Economist, the Financial Times, “60 Minutes,” the New Yorker and many other organizations that have recently sought to feature Bannon know he is an intelligent and influential ideologist, a man who built the largest media platform for the new right, ran Trump’s successful campaign before serving in the White House, and continues to articulate and energize the populism that’s been on the rise throughout the Western world. He might be getting his 15 minutes of fame that will peter out, but, for now, he remains a compelling figure.

The real fear that many on the left have is not that Bannon is dull and uninteresting, but the opposite — that his ideas, some of which can reasonably be described as evoking white nationalism, will prove seductive and persuasive to too many people. Hence his detractors’ solution: Don’t give him a platform, and hope that this will make his ideas go away. But they won’t. In fact, by trying to suppress Bannon and others on the right, liberals are likely making their ideas seem more potent. Did the efforts of communist countries to muzzle capitalist ideas work?

Liberals need to be reminded of the origins of their ideology. In 1859, when governments around the world were still deeply repressive — banning books, censoring commentary and throwing people in jail for their beliefs — John Stuart Mill explained in his seminal work, “On Liberty,” that protection against governments was not enough: “There needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose . .  its own ideas and practices . .  on those who differ from them." This classic defense of free speech, which Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes later called the “freedom for the thought that we hate,” is under pressure in the United States — and from the left.

We’ve been here before. Half a century ago, students were also shutting down speakers whose views they found deeply offensive. In 1974, William Shockley, the Nobel Prize-winning scientist who in many ways was the father of the computer revolution, was invited by Yale University students to defend his abhorrent view that blacks were a genetically inferior race who should be voluntarily sterilized. He was to debate Roy Innis, the African American leader of the Congress of Racial Equality. (The debate was Innis’s idea.) A campus uproar ensued, and the event was canceled. A later, rescheduled debate with another opponent was disrupted.

The difference from today is that Yale recognized that it had failed in not ensuring that Shockley could speak. It commissioned a report on free speech that remains a landmark declaration of the duty of universities to encourage debate and dissent. The report flatly states that a college “cannot make its primary and dominant value the fostering of friendship, solidarity, harmony, civility or mutual respect. . . . it will never let these values . . . override its central purpose. We value freedom of expression precisely because it provides a forum for the new, the provocative, the disturbing, and the unorthodox.”

The report added: “We take a chance, as the First Amendment takes a chance, when we commit ourselves to the idea that the results of free expression are to the general benefit in the long run, however unpleasant they may appear at the time.” It is on this bet for the long run, a bet on freedom — of thought, belief, expression and action — that liberal democracy rests.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.bc06541bcf9a
Mr I likes this.
is Online   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-18, 09:50 AM
  #2
 
Bouncer's Avatar
 
Administrator
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: WILD WEST
Likes: 11339
A different but equally thought provoking standpoint...

Quote:
In the abstract principle, Zakaria is right. If free speech depends on popularity, it leads to the tyranny of the masses. When you happen to agree with the majority, that's fine -- for you. But it's foolish not to consider how it might apply when your views diverge from the prevailing ones; and that can happen.

In the 1950's, Americans were terrorized by demagogues like Sen. Joe McCarthy into imposing patriotic litmus tests on each other. People's lives were destroyed. We're presently experiencing an ugly resurgence of that brand of hysterical group mind, and it manifests in big things like ferocious hate-filled rallies and little things like obligatory lapel pins of the US flag.

In fact, a primary goal of Putin's cyber warfare is to make free expression and reasoned debate impossible. He and his FSB cyber warriors aim to reduce our society to a chaotic battleground at which he can then smirk and say: "Where is your free society now?"

Americans are retreating into safe zones -- sources of info friendly to their own views -- because the confusion of tongues is destabilizing and instills anxiety. And this country's leading abettor of Putin's strategy is Trump, whose attacks on the press aim at making him the only source of truth to those who swear allegiance to him.

In the '60s, the Twilight Zone TV show aired a sci-fi parable entitled "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street." In it, a neighborhood collapsed into self-destructive chaos when seeds of suspicion were sown by alien invaders. The invaders didn't have to attack; they simply made the earthlings suspect each other and they predictably destroyed themselves.

Our enemies are liars sowing suspicion and chaos. We've become fearful that, in extending free speech indiscriminately, we might open the gates to a Trojan horse. And like it or not, merely appearing on a trusted news venue can impart a veneer of respectability to devious hate-mongers like Bannon. As McCluhan observed: "The medium is the message."
is Online   Reply With Quote

SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0