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Old 09-02-17, 05:31 AM
Vegetable Oils Make You Fat And Cause Chronic Disease
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For anyone who’s looked into and reasearched the health effects of different omega-6 containing vegetable oils, you’ll quickly find that there’s a strong connection between all of them and the major degenerative diseases such as diabetes, cancer, heart disease, alzheimer’s and even obesity.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the full text studies that I found particularily interesting:

On obesity from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23249760:

‘Recent studies have emphasized the proadipogenic properties of the omega-6 PUFA, and provided evidence that rodents fed on diets with omega-6 PUFA contents similar to the typical US diet (6–8% energy) have an increased fat mass. Importantly, recent studies have shown that perinatal exposure to a high omega-6 PUFA diet results in a progressive accumulation of body fat across generations.’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408140:

‘Excessive amounts of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) and a very high omega-6/omega-3 ratio, as is found in today’s Western diets, promote the pathogenesis of many diseases, including cardiovascular disease, cancer, and inflammatory and autoimmune diseases...’

On chronic disease from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22570770:

‘...high intake of n-6 PUFA, along with low intakes of n-3 PUFA, shifts the physiological state to one that is proinflammatory and prothrombotic with increases in vasospasm, vasoconstriction, and blood viscosity and the development of diseases associated with these conditions.’

So if you HAVE to cook with oil (which I don’ t recommend) using something like MCT oil or adding olive oil to salad might be less harmful compared to n-6 oils. Even then, fats in general, also those in olive oil have been connected to diabetes and MCT oil/coconut oil has some pretty potent cholesterol raising effects.

This is certainly common knowledge around here but I find that researching these connections on my own gives me a more complete understanding rather than just taking somebody’s word for it. I find it’s also easier to stay on a diet and avoid the harmful foods if you are constantly reading studies and seeing evidence everywhere on their negative effects yourself.

If you have more reaserch to add, I’d appreciate it.
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good post. only fats i get in my diet is avacado and fishoil.
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Old 09-02-17, 01:49 PM
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OP, your links are broken, can you fix.

I've only used olive oil for years. Use very little of it anyway.

Here is a graph showing O-3 vs O-6 for various oils. You want to keep the blue bar as short as possible to reduce the amount of O-6. The closer to 1:1 you are the better for O-6 to O-3. Shitty oils have ratios like 10:1.

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Old 09-02-17, 01:54 PM
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Something like 70% of olive oil in America is mixed with cheaper oils.
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Old 09-02-17, 02:13 PM
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I only buy olive oil that's bottled in Italy or Spain.

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Old 09-02-17, 02:50 PM
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I only buy olive oil that's bottled in Italy or Spain.

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Even imported. Look into it. Consumer Reports I think. I'll post links when I can.
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Old 09-02-17, 03:19 PM
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OP, your links are broken, can you fix.

I've only used olive oil for years. Use very little of it anyway.

Here is a graph showing O-3 vs O-6 for various oils. You want to keep the blue bar as short as possible to reduce the amount of O-6. The closer to 1:1 you are the better for O-6 to O-3. Shitty oils have ratios like 10:1.

thats chart shows coconut oil being very high in omega 3 yet emerging data shows coconut oil is not very healthy..
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imo get your fats from whole food sources as much as possible. not oils.
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Old 09-02-17, 03:24 PM
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thats chart shows coconut oil being very high in omega 3 yet emerging data shows coconut oil is not very healthy..
Coconut oil should be used in moderation, report says | abc7chicago.com

Ask Dr. Nandi: Coconut oil raises both good and bad cholesterol - WXYZ.com
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Old 09-02-17, 03:26 PM
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never mind misread the color chart on the coconut oil. point still stands for evoo though.

avocado and fish oil far superior.
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imo get your fats from whole food sources as much as possible. not oils.
Agreed. I usually just use a spoon when I am sauteeing something. My diet is pretty much zero added fat.

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I personally follow a low fat diet altogether, but I definitely agree that MUFA fats are favourable to both animal and vegetable oil fats. Good discussion.
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I used Olive oil in my afternoon and evening shakes...
Avocadoes for all my meals

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Sadly, Bouncer is right about olive oil. It's really difficult to find pure olive oil that isn't also mixed with other garbage oils like Canola. I'm still a big fan of coconut oil. I've read all the reports and if you really dig into who did the research it's the people pushing soybean oil and vegetable oils. Ghee is also really good.

Canola oil is garbage and peanut oil is probably one of the worst things you can put into your body, especially if it's heated. Here is a good read on it:

[NEWS]: Peanut Oil Tied to Severe Artery Blocks
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Sadly, Bouncer is right about olive oil. It's really difficult to find pure olive oil that isn't also mixed with other garbage oils like Canola. I'm still a big fan of coconut oil. I've read all the reports and if you really dig into who did the research it's the people pushing soybean oil and vegetable oils. Ghee is also really good.

Canola oil is garbage and peanut oil is probably one of the worst things you can put into your body, especially if it's heated. Here is a good read on it:

[NEWS]: Peanut Oil Tied to Severe Artery Blocks
more and more i been hearing how peanuts are bad for you... any truth to that or is it just oil form.
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Great research! I tried Olive oil obviously!
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Sir I think Extra virgin olive oil can also be used?
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Sir I think Extra virgin olive oil can also be used?
To put on salads, yes. For cooking, no.

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To put on salads, yes. For cooking, no.

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Gota disagree bro. I cook everything with olive oil

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EXTRA VIRGIN olive oil breaks down at high temperature. It's not suitable for stir frying, roasting, etc. It is good on salads, dipping bread, etc.

I would consider a "light" olive oil for cooking. It has much better thermal breakdown resistance.

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Been doimg it for years and never had a problem...

I would never cook in veggie oil..Maybe the oil in Merica not good for cooking

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Just because you've been doing it for years doesn't mean it's the right thing.

EVOO for salads and dipping, light olive oil for cooking.

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Just because you've been doing it for years doesn't mean it's the right thing.

EVOO for salads and dipping, light olive oil for cooking.

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Nope... moroccan oil for dips....

Dude you just said olive oil for cooking?!.. u think im putting massive amounts of olive oil?

I put like a 2 table spoon or marinate it with my chicken.. non sticky pan and bam..

Thats why america obese!! Using all that triglycerides fats and raising cholesterol

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I don't understand your stubborn insistence on refusing to learn stuff. I'm telling you that EVOO does not have good thermal resistance to breakdown. You are ruining the oil and losing any benefits by heating it.

But carry on.

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EXTRA VIRGIN olive oil breaks down at high temperature. It's not suitable for stir frying, roasting, etc. It is good on salads, dipping bread, etc.

I would consider a "light" olive oil for cooking. It has much better thermal breakdown resistance.

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You talking about extra virgin. Im talking about regular olive oil brah

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I don't understand your stubborn insistence on refusing to learn stuff. I'm telling you that EVOO does not have good thermal resistance to breakdown. You are ruining the oil and losing any benefits by heating it.

But carry on.

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And stop using big ass words at me. I take that as an insult

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Post 19 that I was responding to was talking about EVOO.

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Post 19 that I was responding to was talking about EVOO.

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Its all good Scrum. Im a big fan of russell peters

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Its all good Scrum. Im a big fan of russell peters

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And stop using big ass words at me. I take that as an insult

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Can't use words with more then 2 syllables or bori won't understand. You have to use the online translator from english to ebonics for it to make sense to him.
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Can't use words with more then 2 syllables or bori won't understand. You have to use the online translator from english to ebonics for it to make sense to him.
I wish they had an ebonics translator.. i just go on the urban dictionary

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