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Old 12-20-17, 01:51 PM
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IF you do high concentrations, EO is needed for chems to hold together. Hence the higher BA as well. I use 29g all the time whether it be EO or not.
2 percent BA and 15-20 percent BB is enought to keep it together and painless...

You might use a 29 gauge, but the thicker the oil the longer it takes to inject..

22/25/27 us enough for me

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Old 12-21-17, 12:36 AM
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I think it's really not talked about enough. Fish oil may very well be a life saver for steroid users. A healthy/natural blood thinner.
Making me get them....i will post when I buy them.
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Old 12-21-17, 12:38 AM
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Using a 21g for the draw and 27G/0.5" to pin...leaves a good size dent in the rubber...I did again all 2ccs into other side of lat this time, very very smooth through the pin.

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Old 12-22-17, 03:39 AM
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No need for eo on test prop unless you wanted it I guess. on higher concentrations like test 400 I would
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I switched to the grey rubber tops now red ones do leave bit of a hole and they were more exspensive go figure.
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Old 12-22-17, 06:58 AM
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No need for eo on test prop unless you wanted it I guess. on higher concentrations like test 400 I would
Yea never done that high on prop.(concentration wise)

I never knew how much I'd like sustanon until I recently came off it.

The past few months I've been on test mixtures and I've enjoyed it.

But prop is my favorite, when it comes to just taking test.

Man you should post a log on here. I'd like to see it and see your type of gear and dosing.

With all due respect, it's stupid but I get it brother, it's your lifestyle....just be safe as possible, if that isn't contradictory lol😁
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Old 12-22-17, 02:05 PM
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Yea never done that high on prop.(concentration wise)

I never knew how much I'd like sustanon until I recently came off it.

The past few months I've been on test mixtures and I've enjoyed it.

But prop is my favorite, when it comes to just taking test.

Man you should post a log on here. I'd like to see it and see your type of gear and dosing.

With all due respect, it's stupid but I get it brother, it's your lifestyle....just be safe as possible, if that isn't contradictory lol😁
Ya I'm a sust guy honestly. But I always told my self bro that if it wasn't for the fact that I wanted to turn pro I wouldn't be using the dosages that I use,I honestly would just enjoy and take different cycles and not worry so much about it all..saftey is always there I actually work with a dr that's understanding so that half the battle there lol I'll do a log to nationals
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Old 12-22-17, 02:18 PM
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I never understood why some of my buddies like sust over test c or test e. I understand if you are doing a short cycle but most of my buddies do cycles of 16 weeks on up. After the first few weeks I don't see how sust would be better than c or e?

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Old 12-22-17, 03:14 PM
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I never understood why some of my buddies like sust over test c or test e. I understand if you are doing a short cycle but most of my buddies do cycles of 16 weeks on up. After the first few weeks I don't see how sust would be better than c or e?

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I think it's just preference brother.also if your doing 1g of sust a week eod inj would work bc I'll do that with cyp or enth I like to cut down on volume all at once, and spread inj evenly
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Old 12-28-17, 10:27 AM
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Winny definitely kicking in, good shit.

Getting bad dry mouth and one thing about winny, I get even more vascular than I am already...


No heartburn or acid reflux as some do get this.
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I get bad acid reflux on all orals im on Prilosec for life basically.i love the winni I'll be jumping on for prep in February
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Old 12-28-17, 03:38 PM
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I get bad acid reflux on all orals im on Prilosec for life basically.i love the winni I'll be jumping on for prep in February
I've gotten some of acid or indigestion in the past, but it's been very minimal.

I like to alternate between the var and winny. They both give me 2 different looks: I tend to favor the winny look by a slight margin.
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ive only taken Anavar 6 weeks out from show and winni 8 weeks out might try Anavar and winni 12 weeks out both at same time slowly rising the mg
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Old 12-28-17, 06:48 PM
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ive only taken Anavar 6 weeks out from show and winni 8 weeks out might try Anavar and winni 12 weeks out both at same time slowly rising the mg
I prefer var due to low toxicity over a course of a year, my liver values were not over 55 points....winny I ran for 8 months and I was in the high 70s....anything over mid 40s is considered high for ast or alt values.
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Old 12-31-17, 07:45 AM
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Winny is strong. 2 weeks in and looking drier already.....smooth injections still.

I feel good all around. I will post some pics in the next few days.
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Nice bro thanks for the great review. I'll be jumping on my prep cycle soon ready to lose some weight!!
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Old 01-05-18, 07:05 AM
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On my last 2 bottles of their prop and mast....I also have the winny not in pic.

The last bottle was about 0.5cc short but no biggie. Sometimes that happens, just one bottle.

So far still no pip, no issues with injection sites. I will post more soon
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Hey sorry about that bro I really try to make sure it's a lil over 10ml my apologies brother.im glade your liking your cycle big guy
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Old 01-06-18, 06:32 AM
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Hey sorry about that bro I really try to make sure it's a lil over 10ml my apologies brother.im glade your liking your cycle big guy
No worries brother.

It was one of the prop...no biggie
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Old 01-12-18, 10:48 AM
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So the past week or so, I've noticed a few things, nothing bad either. But I'm curious to see the lab work once I'm done.

Anytime I've ever taken winny, I get mild achy joints due to the dryness it gives, not with this winny though.

Recently I had thought, Damn this winny is strong. What I meant was, it was kicking in rather quickly and I felt the nice effects.

It seems to have tapered off. I am just running really low dosing of prop and mast, both 300mgs a week.

Interesting enough, I've done this exact same cycle many times and results have been different, but then again I do have more weeks to go.

I know my body well enough to know. But I do feel great, the prop and mast I can certainly tell and know it's working.

Maybe the winny is a bit underdosed? Who knows but if that's the case, here's the reason why im doing these tests. So that the sponsor can see where tweaks need to be made.

I understand completely and it's through trial and error, is how eventually you get to a better product.

I know where my ast/alt levels were before this cycle. We'll see how many points it throws things off. I should see a good 20 point spike to say the least.

And this is going from previous experience.

Other than that. The pinning is smooth, no pip, haven't been sick at all.

Just being honest guys, no agenda or vendetta. Would I use their gear again? Sure would....just really want to narrow this winny down and I'll do what I can to help the community.
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Old 01-14-18, 10:36 AM
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https://youtu.be/9I-4AUMO7VU

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Old 01-15-18, 05:00 PM
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Bro I appreciate the honesty that's awesome and your right if I need to tweak a few things than I will this is how you become great with this type of assessment that your doing! I'm thinking of switching to liquid orals and spending the money for ora sweet and ora plus so you can actually drink it lol any ways how much did you weigh before the log? And let us know numbers once you finish it brother thank you again!
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Old 01-15-18, 05:03 PM
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And you Iinturupted my vacation rado lol ��
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Old 01-15-18, 05:47 PM
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You know the bizar thing bro is I never get achy joints with winni intill I'm like 4 weeks out and I'm doing scull crushers and I'm really low body fat I can feel those things like some one took a hammer to my joints in my elbows
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Old 01-16-18, 02:46 PM
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Bro I appreciate the honesty that's awesome and your right if I need to tweak a few things than I will this is how you become great with this type of assessment that your doing! I'm thinking of switching to liquid orals and spending the money for ora sweet and ora plus so you can actually drink it lol any ways how much did you weigh before the log? And let us know numbers once you finish it brother thank you again!
I can say, personally, that me and the people i deal with prefer caps wayyy more than liquid when it comes to orals. I know I'm a nobody but just my two cents brother. Hope you've enjoyed your vacation!
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I can say, personally, that me and the people i deal with prefer caps wayyy more than liquid when it comes to orals. I know I'm a nobody but just my two cents brother. Hope you've enjoyed your vacation!
No your absultly right ,and it just a thought but I think honestly the majority wants Capps and even pressed tabs witch I'm working on getting a pressing machine it was either liquid orals or pressing tabs I'm leaning towards pressing! All day thank you for your input brother it really helps man
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@rado is that pic current dame!!!
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@rado is that pic current dame!!!
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Old 01-29-18, 09:43 AM
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Getting labs done either tomorrow or the following Tuesday
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Thanks fore everything radio!!
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Thanks fore everything radio!!
No worries.

Definitely this coming up Tuesday since I'll have enough till then.

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Old 02-05-18, 08:28 PM
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how is this going rado?
Gained 4lbs of lean mass in 8wks...scale is 194lbs....very mild and low dosing...wasn't expecting to gain weight but more so get harder and leaner than I was.


I'll post pics this week...getting labs done either today or by Friday, I have enough to carry me through.

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Thank you so much rado! 4lb increase nice
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Thank you so much rado! 4lb increase nice
I'd say it was a nice 8 weeks of it.

4lbs of lean mass isn't something to be ashamed of.

I will post labs and my full thoughts once I see my labs..
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Bro with those dosages is great honestly!
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Bro with those dosages is great honestly!
Yea I'd say so.


I am tempted at times to do some crazy cycle for like 12 weeks....but all I'd be doing is setting my body up for failure down the road. It would them become use to those doses.

I got up as high as 201lbs around xmas😁😁....but a nice 194lbs right at the mark
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Got the labs...winny is effective and so is the gear I took.


I will post soon and pics to finalize this log.

Overall I was happy with this mild cycle, it did increase my liver values by 1.5 times.


Thanks again for the chance fellas!!!
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Got the labs...winny is effective and so is the gear I took.


I will post soon and pics to finalize this log.

Overall I was happy with this mild cycle, it did increase my liver values by 1.5 times.


Thanks again for the chance fellas!!!
I appreciate it brother Iím glade you enjoyed it.from here on out let me know if you need anything!!
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Muscular pose is current look....ended up leaning out ok, could have done better.

I will say that my doses were relatively low anyways. So considering that and gaining a nice 4lbs in 8 weeks, I'd say it was a nice short run.

I'm sorry but I've been lazy with posting labs. Let me edit them and will post today for sure.


It's not fair to the sponsor that I've taken this long to post, but the gear was legit all around.


Thanks again and labs will be posted today for sure.
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Hey rado no worries life can be hectic at times I appreciate you being honest and doing the log for me! You look honestly awsome you started lean! As well And deff tell the diffrince!

Your the man bro!! I appreciate it rado!!!
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Hey rado no worries life can be hectic at times I appreciate you being honest and doing the log for me! You look honestly awsome you started lean! As well And deff tell the diffrince!

Your the man bro!! I appreciate it rado!!!
Muscular pose is current look....ended up leaning out ok, could have done better.

I will say that my doses were relatively low anyways. So considering that and gaining a nice 4lbs in 8 weeks, I'd say it was a nice short run.

I'm sorry but I've been lazy with posting labs. Let me edit them and will post today for sure.


It's not fair to the sponsor that I've taken this long to post, but the gear was legit all around.


Thanks again and labs will be posted today for sure.
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diet was the same, no change...so i know the winny was effective and it also raised my blood cells.


not too alarmed on that one since it is barely. but i am going to watch the orals since i am taking superdrol now for another 8 weeks of orals.

but i will take a break from the orals if they don't come down this time around. let it heal up a bit. i am experimenting with the thistle, so we shall see.

the test is right on point considering it was prop. i did feel the winny was not as strong, like i have had in the past. but the labs do show it was effective.

thanks again for the chance fellas!
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Thank you again rado! I’m glad you liked it and had some fun!!
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Thank you again rado! Iím glad you liked it and had some fun!!
I sure did
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hey redo can you do me a favor and move your blood work to the blood work section thanks brother!
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