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Old 06-06-17, 11:45 AM
Testosterone - esters - what do you prefer- why?
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What is Testosterone?

Testosterone is the key male hormone -

It is an Androgen Meaning That is responsible for the development of male sexual characteristics.

Testosterone is a type of Androgen produced by Leydig cells primarily by the testes/testicles in men and in the ovaries by women.
Small quantities are also produced by the adrenal glands in both sexes.

During puberty, testosterone helps build a young man's muscles, Deepens his voice, grow hair on his body, grow the size of his penis and testicles.

In men testosterone helps regulate a number of functions in the body, below is just a few.

Sexual desire
Bone MASS and Density
Fat Regulation and Distribution
Muscle Size and Strength
RBC Production

As we become older our testosterone levels begin to drop By about 40 years of age our.
Circulating testosterone levels will begin to drop 1- 2% per year.
Low testosterone levels have been associated with,

Decreased libido
Erectile dysfunction
Higher Estrogen Levels
Mood instabilities such as,
Fatigue
Depression
Anger
Decrease in MUSCLE MASS and STRENGTH
Decrease in Bone MASS and Mineral Density
Increase in fat Mass
Diabetes
High blood pressure

Here is Bloodwork that will be required from your dr. To initially diagnose you to see if you qualify for TRT.
(Testosterone Replacement Therapy)

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
CBC-
Lipid Panel
Testosterone Free and Total
Estradiol Sensitive
DHEA-Sulfate
TSH
PSA
LH
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin-

There are many forms of injectable testosteron. Here are a few .

TestosteronePropionate,
Testosterone Enanthate,
Testosterone Cypionate
(Sustanon) a combination of different ester
Test phenylpropionate
Test undecanoate
Test isocaproate
Test decanoate
Test Suspension

An 'ester' is basically a chain composed of Hydrogen, Carbon, and Oxygen atoms which are attached to the testosterone molecule which must be broken down in the body once injected.
Even though the testosterone molecule remains the same regardless of the ester. Each one can yield different results depending on how they are metabolized By the individual.

By adding and ester, injections can be taken as frequently as once a day, EOD, twice per week, or as infrequent as once a week or longer.
Without the use of an ester maintaining/stable constant blood levels would be much more difficult to achieve.

Approximate Testosterone Half Life

Testosterone Undecanoate. 16-17 days
Sustanon or Omnadren. 15-18 days
Testosterone Cypionate. 12-14 days
Testosterone Enanthate. 10-12 days
Test Phenylpropionate. 4 - 5. days
Testosterone Propionate. . 2 - 3. days
Testosterone Suspension. 1/2 - 1 day

WHAT is your favorite testosterone to run ?
and why?

What are the reasons some of you prefer cyp over enanthate and vice versa?

Or do you prefer a short ester even thou pinning frequency is much greater?

or Do you prefer Long esters for Less Pinning?

Whats your reasoning? Better results, Faster results, less bloat?

Less pinning?

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long esters E5D. steady blood levels and less pinning.
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long esters E5D. steady blood levels and less pinning.
One source I saw had a test deconate but I don't think they carry it anymore.

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Never used that. I'm talking about Enth and cyp
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I'm not too picky, if it's a aas and has testosterone in the name, I'm game.
Results wise, prop has treated me the best though...


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Test Prop for me.. I like the EOD pinning

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Never used that. I'm talking about Enth and cyp
You are liking that you can keep stable blood levels with a greater time between pins correct? Wouldn't deconate make your blood levels even more stable with e5d pins once its built up in your system.

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One source I saw had a test deconate but I don't think they carry it anymore.

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We carry an test Undecanoate. About a 10 day pin cycle

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You are liking that you can keep stable blood levels with a greater time between pins correct? Wouldn't deconate make your blood levels even more stable with e5d pins once its built up in your system.

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I don't know much about it. I've just always used enath or cyp and it's always worked well for me.

I shoot deca every 5 days also which has the deconate ester.

I doubt there is a real world difference in terms of visual muscle gain or better results between cyp, enath, or deconate. On paper I'm sure there is but as I've learned over the years, that doesn't always translate to real world results.

Don't get me wrong though, I like science and data. If the science and the real world results say deconate is better I'll make the jump.
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The big difference I see is the different esters have different weights, so the longer the heavier meaning mg for mg you get more test out of test p than test undeconate. Correct me if I am wrong Mace.

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The big difference I see is the different esters have different weights, so the longer the heavier meaning mg for mg you get more test out of test p than test undeconate. Correct me if I am wrong Mace.

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You get more mg per mg on shirt esters
.but it ain't much of a difference

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