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Old 04-10-19, 10:50 AM
ARL Sponsored cycle Primo E/Sust/Var log with pics and videos
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I want to thank again the crew over at ARL. In all the 20+ years I've been around these boards, this is a 1st that I've ever seen or encountered a sponsor give up PRIMO for a logging opportunity; mad props!!!

In return I do labmax, pics, videos, blood work before/after, etc.

The cycle will look like this.

400 primo
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50mgs var
0.5mgs Arimidex E4D(script)

I'll run for 6 months and will go from there.

I've posted already 3 YouTube videos showing all of their gear was tested and passed.

This cycle begins on the 15th of this month. (I want to have bloodwork done again)

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Old 04-10-19, 11:55 AM
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primo higher then test dose. whats the idea behind that? not saying it's wrong just want to know the plan.
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Old 04-10-19, 01:36 PM
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I've done 400mgs of test and 500mgs, no need for it and it has never made that much of a difference for me. The primo is right in the middle of everywhere I've read and I truly don't think I'll need more; assuming the primo is as true as it comes of course.

I'd rather take a nice advantage of the 400 primo. I know EXACTLY how much my body responds with var and test.

Keeping at those levels as I have in the past, I'll know the exact physique i should have, been there many times.

Incorporating the primo at 400 and any changes my body sees, I'll know exactly where it's from.

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Old 04-10-19, 02:57 PM
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I do the same when i run primo.Low test and let the primo shine.I have a freind who likes to run primo standalone and 1gram week 12 weeks.No test.He looks fantastic ofcourse but tells me the test is not needed ..?that one is open for debate.
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Old 04-10-19, 03:00 PM
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rado man im a little jelly over here in the midst of a great deca run..You have a nice clean stack and your body will show results quick visually as you are lean and in shape.perfect base.I love my primo,Var and mast so cant wait for the mid summer cut.
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Old 04-10-19, 03:20 PM
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I've done 400mgs of test and 500mgs, no need for it and it has never made that much of a difference for me. The primo is right in the middle of everywhere I've read and I truly don't think I'll need more; assuming the primo is as true as it comes of course.



I'd rather take a nice advantage of the 400 primo. I know EXACTLY how much my body responds with var and test.



Keeping at those levels as I have in the past, I'll know the exact physique i should have, been there many times.



Incorporating the primo at 400 and any changes my body sees, I'll know exactly where it's from.



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Feel ya.

Smart cycle. Look forward it. Always wondered about primo but never got past a thought because it seems like there are always a better bang for the buck. Maybe this will change my mind.

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Old 04-12-19, 11:35 AM
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Primo is misunderstood by people with too high of bodyfat generally.
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Old 04-12-19, 11:43 AM
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Primo is misunderstood by people with too high of bodyfat generally.
yup. same with masteron. underated because you only see results if you are already in shape. if your a 20% fatty your not seeing the changes under all the bodyfat.
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Old 04-12-19, 12:47 PM
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Excactly.Primo is drastic in visual changes when you are lean,bellies,straitions and density become apparent.
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Old 04-15-19, 09:03 AM
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Im almost half way through my deca run but rado has me wanting to get on with it and begin my primo run.12 more weeks until i can :(.

Nandro does me great when i am in a gain phase but for me the nandro allways makes me a little lackluster mentally.hard to describe.Eq and tren does the same to me.
I did some reserch and found some data suggestingt nandralone lowers dopamine production possibly.

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4549565/

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Anyhow i deal with it.Primo,masterone,proviron and dbol gives me a huge boost of well being so those compounds i love to run.
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Old 04-15-19, 09:05 AM
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I begin tomorrow, the cycle!

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Old 04-16-19, 10:56 AM
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What is your training style like bro?My self i like volume training.And while i am in offseason gain phase i just run push/pull/legs.When i am doing prep i then have an arm day,shoulder day etc.

Anyhow enough of me this is your Journey and we look forward to your course
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Old 04-17-19, 07:34 PM
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What is your training style like bro?My self i like volume training.And while i am in offseason gain phase i just run push/pull/legs.When i am doing prep i then have an arm day,shoulder day etc.



Anyhow enough of me this is your Journey and we look forward to your course
I do lots of different stuff. I've been mainly xfit for a few years now.

I also do FRM exercises like this;

https://youtu.be/47hdlXklEtk

I run ED 3 to 4 miles for cardio at a 745 pace. I've done all sorts of training. For me and what's worked as I've gotten older and wiser, is being in full complete conditioning.

I'm ALL about how long you lasting or how soon you're breaking. I still lift heavy, but NOT like I use to do.



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Old 04-17-19, 07:38 PM
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Began cycle.

I'll be posting up pics over the weekend and my new bloodwork I took and will post the last one I had about 2 months ago or so.


In other words, I've been OFF for a good year and been maintaining well.

My goal is to get shredded as I have in the past and keep it for a bit. I've done several cycles and compounds with pics of before and after that I've done in the past.

And just about every cycle, I get a different look and feel.


Never done REAL PRIMO and I know EXACTLY how my body feels and looks like with just Sust and var, I've done that cycle and posted on it.

So we shall see what the primo does and how it will make me look.



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Old 04-17-19, 09:27 PM
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Primo virgin you are.You Really will enjoy it.Happy for you.Its the unicorn like they say
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Old 04-18-19, 07:15 AM
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Btw the oil into/out of the needle, is super smooth.

Small PIP next day, like enough to know you pinned the previous day.

So I'll keep it updated more so towards the next week or so.
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The var schedule is 30mgs as I get up, empty stomach with coffee. I go train then go about my day.

I get home around 430pm ED and take the other 20mgs usually once I walk in.

The pinning I do first thing in the AM. I'm also keeping it simple for days scheduled.


M.W.F shots. Off weekends for pins.

Using 27g and 1/2" for pinning.

As many know, I rotate all sites.

Delts, pecs, traps, lats, bi's/tri's, calfs, glutes and quads.

In recent years, I've developed more scar tissue in certain areas, it is inevitable and it happens to all of us. So using all areas or as many as you can tolerate, is crucial IMO.

My favorite still to this day is lats.

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Old 04-18-19, 08:39 PM
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Good details rado.I never have but consider lats.I have heard it is not so bad at all.
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Old 04-23-19, 10:03 AM
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Got my labs yesterday, will post later on and with an update on the first week and now that I've had labs done again, I can focus on this cycle.

Btw although i did my FULL PANEL last week, just a few hours ago I did a TOTAL TESTOSTERONE AMD FREE TEST


my doctor wanted another one done. So my point? Well it's been a week and we'll see if the sust has had ANY effect?

Anyone care to take a guess? Shall be interesting to see if within a weeks time, sust kicks in?

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Old 04-23-19, 10:06 AM
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yes. since sust has a short ester in it it should definitely raise test levels within that week.
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Old 04-23-19, 10:10 AM
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yes. since sust has a short ester in it it should definitely raise test levels within that week.
He's been checking my igf quite a bit lately. Maybe he's gonna put me on some Pfizer GH

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Old 04-23-19, 10:11 AM
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Not gonna lie, the past few weeks I've felt like a lab rat lol.

Labs here, labs there wtf

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does that paper say you have the semen level of women and infants?

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does that paper say you have the semen level of women and infants?


Ha ha

No it is the location I need to visit.

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Old 04-23-19, 08:21 PM
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Hey i think it will be really nice to see what difference we have in a week with the sust plasma levels.We never get the chance to do that so very nice besides the labrat bit
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Old 04-26-19, 07:40 AM
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9th day in and here are my thoughts so far.

In regards of pinning and the PIP. I will say this, of all the gear I've used, these guys have the LEAST PIP I've ever experienced 24hrs later.

The drawing and pinning of the oil is super smooth; almost like water. I appreciate this because I pin with a 27g/0.5" BUT draw with a 21g. It is very very smooth.

I am waiting for my recent labs that my actual dr took; I got another testosterone/free done.

Once I get those back, I will post the ones I did(full panel)showing I've been OFF and I also experimented with something and damn those numbers do show. I'll explain more once I post my labs.

Onto the var.

Var, winny and superdrol have different effects on me not only visually but internally.

Winny dries me up, that's it. Yes I get shredded and such, but it keeps me dry.

Superdrol keeps me CONSTANTLY pumped and WARM pretty much 24/7.

Var? My fav oral.

I've never had real pharm grade var and if I got my hands on some real pharm grade, I'd buy some.

But in recent years the var I've done that has tested out good in labmax and also very reputable sources having good var, I've been able to get an idea. So far it has been consistent with results and those are?

Var keeps my tight, full and vascular as fuck. I know what I'm posting may seem like a "wtf" did you just say type bs.

But there's a difference of being dry and not pumped, depleted(winny)

Being super pumped, veins being thick all around, warm body, skin being a tad flushed due to the pumps(superdrol)

Hope this makes sense?

So right now it is a bit early to tell, but soon enough.

I've taken pics before and will take more.

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Old 04-26-19, 04:48 PM
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Hey brother great bit of info there.Thankyou.i completely understand your explanation on your perspective of the way the different compounds affect you physically.Winny keeps me flat as well along with drying me out.Superdrol is a beast.We have superdrol and i keep considering giving it a 3 weeker.I have not used designer orals for about 15 years.Var to me is a perfect medium when it is real and dosed accordingly to your needs.fantastic drug and yes you can tell the differences.
I am trying to get the team to add pheraplex and epidrol to the list.Those two back in the day were my favorite bulker/cutter pair i would call them.
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Old 04-30-19, 09:04 AM
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About 2 weeks in and I feel good.

I have to say that the pinning with their gear is very very smooth and easy.

I've noticed that I'm not eating as much either. My GFs even noticed it because I've skipped certain meals; no hunger.

The var is super nice. I get the vascularity within an hour of taking it. The pumps are nice as well.

Pics will come next week and will post labs tonight or tomorrow.

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Old 04-30-19, 09:16 AM
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usually the lack of hunger comes with all 17-aa even var. happens to me every time.
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Old 04-30-19, 09:36 AM
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usually the lack of hunger comes with all 17-aa even var. happens to me every time.
Never been that way before with the others.


Isn't primo best with a caloric deficit diet? Or it works well with a caloric deficit diet right?

Not purposely doing it either. I love to eat

I'm just seeing or waiting to see what primo really does for me.

As I said before, I know what var and sust does for me.



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Appetite suppression isn't a side of primo from what I understand. No experience with it though.

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Appetite suppression isn't a side of primo from what I understand. No experience with it though.

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I hear ya.


Well I can say that the cycle is going along well. I'm excited to post pics but I also wanna post labs to go along.

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Old 05-01-19, 08:05 PM
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Never been that way before with the others.


Isn't primo best with a caloric deficit diet? Or it works well with a caloric deficit diet right?

Not purposely doing it either. I love to eat

I'm just seeing or waiting to see what primo really does for me.

As I said before, I know what var and sust does for me.



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What i do know is that primo can build more lean mass in a calorie deficit than say test.Requires less macros
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Not to sound like a broken record, but that var is no joke. Pumps are sick, within 30mns of taking the var. Still super smooth pinning.

Pic with the image(taken April 5th) is me all natural from a years OFF.

2nd pic is today after a few weeks of this cycle.

Obviously I'm working on getting back into the single digits in bf and should be no issue here within the next few weeks.

I feel fucking really good. Strong, agile, good cardio etc.....but appetite isn't there much.

BP is always 130 over 80..I check it once a day. Resting heart rate is in the low 50s. Sleeping well into the 7hrs ED.

I'll post more as I go along.

I'm excited to see my progress 2 weeks from now.

The last 2 pics the image one especially, is me with just winny, notice how flat.

The undies pic is var from last year. I still fuller, harder with var.

But I am leaning out relatively sooner than later right now, maybe that's the primo working?

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Sweet brother you are enjoying this and bro should be good to go mid summer for sure.Thankyou for these updates and pictures.
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Look great as always rado

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Woke up this morning and definitely starting to see some hardening and feeling nice and tight.

When the pump calms down with the var, I still feel this nice tight hard shape around me.

Not like a pump, but just really tight/hard.

Training is great as always, but definitely feel way better being back ON

I'll take some pics over the weekend. Definitely a good change from a weeks time.

The gear is so far great. I will do some bloodwork again in probably 2 more weeks and obviously once I'm done.

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Current look and a bit over 3 weeks.

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Woke up this morning and definitely starting to see some hardening and feeling nice and tight.

When the pump calms down with the var, I still feel this nice tight hard shape around me.

Not like a pump, but just really tight/hard.

Training is great as always, but definitely feel way better being back ON

I'll take some pics over the weekend. Definitely a good change from a weeks time.

The gear is so far great. I will do some bloodwork again in probably 2 more weeks and obviously once I'm done.

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I also need to point out that the first bottle of var, it was 4 pills short, no biggie. I've only opened 2 of them for testing and I've yet to begin those and HAVE accounted the ones I used for testing. So this was a fresh new bottle.

In regards to the oils, the first vial was right on 10cc's.

Still very happy and looking forward to some bloodwork soon.



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Bloodwork will be good i feel.No doubt


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I also need to point out that the first bottle of var, it was 4 pills short, no biggie. I've only opened 2 of them for testing and I've yet to begin those and HAVE accounted the ones I used for testing. So this was a fresh new bottle.

In regards to the oils, the first vial was right on 10cc's.

Still very happy and looking forward to some bloodwork soon.



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7 days later from last side pic posted....and 4 weeks in for the cycle

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Yesterday's pic.

Now it's time to get lean.

I've gotten halfway and liking this cycle quite a bit. I feel really good.

Curious to see labs; I'll do those in about a weeks time.

I'd like to see where I'm at midway through.

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Looking ready to chin check bro

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