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Old 09-10-18, 12:26 PM
Question about IGF after running GH
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32 y/o been running AAS for a couple of years not blasting/cruising. For the first 7 weeks of this GH run I was doing 2.25IU of Pfizer Genotropin (from Turkey) w/ a dose of 350mg Test E a week.

I am not really sure if the test above indicates if the GH is legit? On a similar Test dose with Masteron and Anavar I have had my IGF like 20 points higher in the past.

Also to note the last 2 weeks leading into the blood work I increased the dose to 3.6IU and also went into a blast cycle of 900mg Test E/400 Deca and 50 MG of Anadrol a day.

I think the GH is good but just wanted some feedback from more experienced members as this is my first time running it.

Once I run out of this Genotropin I have some Norditropin I got from JINTROPOIN.us that I plan to run at 4IU a day.
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Old 09-10-18, 12:43 PM
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3.6iu of real Pfizer Genotropin should probably have your IGF level around 500-600 or possibly higher. it's safe to say the shit from turkey is not very good.

you plan on getting igf test on the norditropin?
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Old 09-10-18, 12:51 PM
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Do you know what your baseline is? That is very helpful when looking at IGF-1 results. 2 weeks of 3.6iu is long enough that it would have shown on your test. So if your baseline is 0 then I'd say it is dosed just ok to below average. When I'm running 4iu im in the high 500's to low 600's.
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Old 09-10-18, 01:23 PM
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3.6iu of real Pfizer Genotropin should probably have your IGF level around 500-600 or possibly higher. it's safe to say the shit from turkey is not very good.

you plan on getting igf test on the norditropin?
Shit... I wonder if its completely fake.

Yeah I will definitely get bloods run again once I switch to the Norditropin from JIN.us.
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Old 09-10-18, 01:26 PM
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Do you know what your baseline is? That is very helpful when looking at IGF-1 results. 2 weeks of 3.6iu is long enough that it would have shown on your test. So if your baseline is 0 then I'd say it is dosed just ok to below average. When I'm running 4iu im in the high 500's to low 600's.
The only baseline I have from recently is at the end of my last AAS blast.

I was running 500mg Test E/600mg Mast E/100mg a day of Anavar.

I was doing a recomp so was at a deficit and my IGF-1 was at 186 which I admit I thought was pretty damn low considering I was doing what I'd consider to be a blast.

Now I have, in the past about 1.5 years ago when I was closer to 30 had the IGF values at 344 without any GH and at just a Test E does of like 150mg/wk.

Suffice to say I am confused and wondering if the stuff is real.
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Old 09-10-18, 01:34 PM
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The only baseline I have from recently is at the end of my last AAS blast.

I was running 500mg Test E/600mg Mast E/100mg a day of Anavar.

I was doing a recomp so was at a deficit and my IGF-1 was at 186 which I admit I thought was pretty damn low considering I was doing what I'd consider to be a blast.

Now I have, in the past about 1.5 years ago when I was closer to 30 had the IGF values at 344 without any GH and at just a Test E does of like 150mg/wk.

Suffice to say I am confused and wondering if the stuff is real.

On test mast and anavar your IGF-1 levels should not be raised. And 186 sounds about right for a baseline. 344 seems way too high for just a baseline. Your levels seem a little all over the place. I guess I've done enough testing that I know where I should be. Either way yours seems low at the dose you're running.
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Old 09-10-18, 01:46 PM
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On test mast and anavar your IGF-1 levels should not be raised. And 186 sounds about right for a baseline. 344 seems way too high for just a baseline. Your levels seem a little all over the place. I guess I've done enough testing that I know where I should be. Either way yours seems low at the dose you're running.
3 months before the 186 I had IGF at 208 and again no GH just 500mg test E with some Dbol.

So do you think the Geno is fake? I have about a week left of my supply of it and just wondering if I should abandon ship... I paid a pretty pen but since there is just a week left wondering if I should switch to my Nord pens I just got or just finish these up if they are somewhat raising levels.

I am a total noob to GH so apologize in advance for the questions. I am anal as well on bloodwork so that is why I always like to run it just to confirm I am not feeling bro-science.

So far on Geno I do feel like I have slept better, skin has been better and hair growth as well - outside of that I had no negative effects.
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Old 09-10-18, 02:08 PM
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So I’m guessing your baseline is somewhere around 200. So it looks like it raised your levels by about 100 points. I wouldn’t go as far to say that it’s fake but I would say it is very underdosed.
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Old 09-10-18, 09:02 PM
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So Iím guessing your baseline is somewhere around 200. So it looks like it raised your levels by about 100 points. I wouldnít go as far to say that itís fake but I would say it is very underdosed.
Gothca - that is better than nothing at all so I guess ill be patient and finish up the last week - it wasn't cheap unfortunately so I don't want to just toss it (unless it were fake).

Thanks again for the advice - once I have run the Nords from Jin.us for a bit ill run bloods on them too
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