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Old 01-28-16, 02:30 PM
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Old 01-28-16, 04:24 PM
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Have you had any problems with the test D crashing because of the ethyl olate?
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Old 01-28-16, 08:18 PM
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No we haven't. I got several test d 500s sitting here all holding perfect and haven't had any complaints with the test d across several boards
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Old 02-03-16, 02:28 PM
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I just put in an order for 6 vials of test d 500mgs/ml.
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Old 02-03-16, 03:10 PM
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I just put in an order for 6 vials of test d 500mgs/ml.
Look forward to your experience with it. Interested to know the difference you notice in comparison to other esters.
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Old 02-04-16, 10:04 AM
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I just put in an order for 10 vials of cyp. Two free bottles huh?
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Old 02-11-16, 08:17 AM
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I ended up only getting one test d 500. I am reading a lot of good stuff about ethyl olate but there is a small percentage of people that get an allergic reaction to it. I figured it would be best to test the waters first before diving in. Lol
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I think you should be fine. Ethyl oleate gets a bad rep as some people use non-human grade of it sometimes without realizing it. Since they didn't produce their own vial most likely.
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Old 02-11-16, 10:38 PM
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My gear is made with EO. I can tell you that what you've read and heard, is true. I don't get anymore red sore injection spots anymore. But they do hurt.
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Old 02-12-16, 07:59 AM
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I just got my order in a few days ago with my free bottles. Yeaaaahhhhh Budddddy!
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Old 02-12-16, 08:44 AM
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I just got my order in a few days ago with my free bottles. Yeaaaahhhhh Budddddy!
Yeah, I'm stoked that I have Dyle as a resource. I have a buddy that sells but he is a middleman and jacks up the prices. He has some strange stuff though. I can't remember if it's sust 200 or sust 250 but it's made with apricot oil?
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Old 02-19-16, 08:04 PM
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My order came in. I'll try out the test d 500 made with ethyl olate tonight.
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Old 02-20-16, 04:56 PM
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No pain injecting and no pain after. It's pretty smooth.
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Old 04-05-16, 10:49 AM
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Look forward to your experience with it. Interested to know the difference you notice in comparison to other esters.
I started my cycle with some test e and test p. After 4 weeks I ended the test p and switched over to test d 500. I gauge my need for adex based on nipple sensitivity. When I was using test e and test p I was taking around .3ml eod. With the test d I started slowly lowering the adex and I'm now not taking any and have no nip sensitivity? With test p and test e my libido was through the roof and with test d it has gone down dramatically. I have upped the dose to 500mg e4d to see how my body reacts.

Once I'm done with this bottle I'm going to get bloods done, I've probably created an estrogen surplus from not taking an AI. Though I wonder why I don't have nip sensitivity like I've had in the past?

I am still taking 125mg of deca with the test.

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Old 04-05-16, 10:54 AM
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I started my cycle with some test e and test p. After 4 weeks I ended the test p and switched over to test d 500. I gauge my need for adex based on nipple sensitivity. When I was using test e and test p I was taking around .3ml eod. With the test d I started slowly lowering the adex and I'm now not taking any at all with no nipple sensitivity? With test p and test e my libido was through the roof and with test d is has gone down dramatically. I have upped the dose to 500mg e4d to see how my body reacts.

I am still taking 125mg of deca with the test.

Once I'm done with this bottle I'm going to get bloods done.
Interesting. How long since you made the switch to test d? Maybe the body doesn't respond to test d in the same way? Less potent somehow.
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Old 04-05-16, 11:25 AM
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My dates may be a week or 2 off but I got the test d 2 weeks into Feb and I had just run out of the test e. So I started the test e and p around Jan 13, ended the test p around Feb 3, ended the test e around Feb 10 and started the test d around Feb 15. So I'm on my 8th weed of the test d 500.

I might take a bit of test p to see if it is a potency issue. I'm almost done with the bottle and I've got the regular test d 250 to jump on. I keep thinking about the article posted the other day about how China is scamming the ugl's. Maybe it's a bad batch or maybe my estrogen is high and I'm just not having nipple sensitivity?
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Old 04-05-16, 11:28 AM
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i say stick to the basics. cyp,enath, or prop.

Less test d is made, less people testing it out, less people that know what to expect etc...
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Old 04-05-16, 11:33 AM
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In the future I'll stick with test e but I've got 7 bottles of test d left. Lol.
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Old 04-26-16, 08:56 AM
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I'm getting my bloods drawn tomorrow but I'm due for an injection. Do you guys think I should inject tonight or wait until after I get my bloods drawn.
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Old 04-26-16, 09:10 AM
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i dont think it matters bro.
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Old 04-26-16, 11:08 AM
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Old 04-27-16, 01:20 PM
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Just to post up. Test D weighs the most compared to other ester so you might need to take more to get a comparable dose. Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
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Old 04-27-16, 02:52 PM
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Just to post up. Test D weighs the most compared to other ester so you might need to take more to get a comparable dose. Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
So the difference between D and E is 8mg per 100mg. So if your taking 300mg the difference between D and E would be 24mgs. Not really all that much difference. Avid, maybe take 1/3rd a cc more test d than you normally would of test e or c.
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Old 04-27-16, 08:10 PM
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True just something I factor as Im usually running a few grams probably doesn't matter as much in lower doses. Also since it's a long ester I believe you need to wait 10-12 weeks for test levels to peak
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Old 04-28-16, 05:36 PM
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Wow, I didn't know that. I bought test d 500. Interested to see how o react to 3cc/wk
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Old 04-28-16, 07:52 PM
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How much is that bam 600mg?
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Old 04-28-16, 08:03 PM
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Nice. You guys post of some really good specials to go along with the already low prices. Wish I could partake. Guess I'll live vicariously through others.
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Old 04-28-16, 11:16 PM
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Well if its 62mg test for every 100mg testd, that would make each ml 310mgs, brining it to 930mg test (1500 test d). Assuming the ratios dyel says are correct
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Old 04-28-16, 11:21 PM
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Well if its 62mg test for every 100mg testd, that would make each ml 310mgs, brining it to 930mg test (1500 test d). Assuming the ratios dyel says are correct
Umm what? Lol.

There is 62 mgs of test per 100mgs test d. If your taking 300mgs of test d that comes out to 186mgs of active testosterone. If your taking 900mgs of test d that comes out to 558mgs of active testosterone.

I'm asking you what the bottle says in terms of dosage? Is it 250mg/ml?
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Old 04-29-16, 06:38 AM
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Umm what? Lol.

There is 62 mgs of test per 100mgs test d. If your taking 300mgs of test d that comes out to 186mgs of active testosterone. If your taking 900mgs of test d that comes out to 558mgs of active testosterone.

I'm asking you what the bottle says in terms of dosage? Is it 250mg/ml?
I think I figured it out.

He has test D 500mg/mL. He is doing 3cc a week.

62 x 5=310 mg active test per mL. 310 x 3=930 mg active test weekly is his dose.
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Old 04-29-16, 07:02 AM
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ahh got it. his wording through me off. never mind, your correct bammy.
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Old 04-29-16, 08:24 AM
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What turbo said lol
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I think I figured it out.

He has test D 500mg/mL. He is doing 3cc a week.

62 x 5=310 mg active test per mL. 310 x 3=930 mg active test weekly is his dose.
Correct turbo, He would be getting 1200mgs of active test per week if he took 15ml of test prop instead. This is a big difference and I know my ratios are correct you can google it. Conclusion, test p is about 25% stronger than test D so adjust doses accordingly.

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Old 04-29-16, 11:03 PM
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What exactly is the point of test D? Like why use it over E?
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Old 05-01-16, 08:40 AM
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What exactly is the point of test D? Like why use it over E?
Maybe its easier to sustain at higher concentrations without crashing? I'd have to take a Lil more than 5 ml test e 250 to equal the same 3 ml test d 500
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Old 05-01-16, 07:45 PM
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Alot guys like test d for its very long half life. It's popular for cruising and it holds painless at a much higher mg then test c
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What exactly is the point of test D? Like why use it over E?

Test e half life 10.5 days
Test d half life 15 days
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Old 05-02-16, 09:35 AM
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I thought the option on the lab allowed the results to go past 1500? I will have to email the company.

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is there supposed to be a pic bro? all i see is a broken image tab thing.
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Old 05-02-16, 10:23 AM
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It's crazy that my estrogen is so high and I'm not having any nip sensitivity. I'm going to start taking .3ml adex eod and take bloods again in 10 weeks or so.
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Old 05-02-16, 10:33 AM
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your a mess with the imgur. lol. i fixed it for you above.

yea it looks like the test maxed out at 1500 for test levels and you were above that.

your estro is not high bro. you have to think in terms of ratio. your estro would only be high if your test levels were within normal range.

you only get gyno when the ratio is out of balance. if your estro was that high and you test was within normal range you'd have tits.

all about ratio. do not take adex. you are good to go.

You can't expect to have the test levels of 10 men with the estro level of a normal fella.
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to stick with the test d 500 with ethyl oleate; I had absolutely no pip or pain at all. I've got some test d 250 to burn through before I order again though.
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yea it's obvously keeping your test levels high. wish we knew how much higher than 1500 they were.
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Old 05-02-16, 11:03 AM
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I wish so as well, the test description said that it would show above 1500? I emailed the company and I'm waiting for a responce.
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Old 05-02-16, 11:11 AM
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Well damn, I selected the wrong option :(.
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Old 05-02-16, 04:10 PM
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You want your E2 in the high teens to low 30's at all times. Trt docs will make sure you're in that range but also coaches that give people MUCH larger doses will put them in that range. Here is even a video from Matt Porter where he states what numbers your estrogen should be at https://youtu.be/OCR25GIdnb4
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Avid you have more estrogen then a pregnant teen bro
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If his sex drive is high and there are no gyno issues he is perfectly fine. A pregnant teen doesn't have test levels over 1500. Ratio is key here.

Now if sex drive is low and he's growing tits I fully agree with you. Sometimes it's important to listen to your body. If your in a good place why change it?

Avid if you want to pull a little water and fat off adex at .25mgs ED would probably help.
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