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Old 05-26-16, 06:06 AM
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Been trimming down for summer time...feel skinny as hell down to 195. but got rid of the winter flab. :thumb: But what the hell I figure Im doing ok for an old natty dude..'

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Old 05-26-16, 07:19 AM
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Man put some pants on. Fuck sake.
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Old 05-26-16, 08:12 AM
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Old 05-26-16, 08:26 AM
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I'm not gonna give you a like or props on this one bro, allow me to explain before labeling me a cunt.

In your avatar you looked bigger and leaner. That's when you were really into it and 90% of your posts involved diet, training, and getting back into shape. The last few years however your posts became more about day to day life. I'm not saying posting about day to day life is a bad thing but i could tell your interest in getting into great shape had faded a bit. IMO that is reflected in your recent pic. Making it clear that you are an "old natty dude" should not be an excuse that exists in your mind. IMO thats a way for you to tell yourself "ehh at least I look better than other old out of shape people". Reach higher than that brother. I know for an absolute fact that you can look way better than this. I will always give props to progress, but this is not progress.

3 options in how people respond to a response like I gave above.

1. You deny it and tell yourself it's not true.
2. You accept it but tell yourself it's ok because you've gotten a bit older.
3. You accept it and you say "you know what god dammit bouncer is right, time to get fucken serious and put in real effort"! This is the eye of the tiger response.

Be the tiger.
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Old 05-26-16, 08:47 AM
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Lip would you ever do a cycle?
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Old 05-26-16, 08:59 AM
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lol.. TRUTH IS I have been working harder in the gym but I have switched up what Im doing. Im doing less reps now and actually concentrating on form and a bit heavier weight. Each pic will show different as your saying goes..smoke and mirrors...LMAO. I just snapped it this am as I went from 205 down to 195. so I took off about 10 lbs. I think 10 lbs would be very noticeable on a taller person compared to a shorter / stocker bigger person. It will make me look a lot smaller. Now ,,if you like Im sure I can get a picture and make me look bigger with the right lighting and angle of the camera...:grin:

As far as my posts go, My work out routine is pretty much the same as well as my diet. Again, I am doing a bit heavier weight and concentrating on the form with less reps and gonna see if that can help me get stronger and maybe a bit of size too. But when loosing a bit of flab I got over the winter to tighten up Im sure I lost a bit. Its not like I have a lot of size to loose... I can control my weight pretty good thru diet now so I really don't have a lot to post about that. its not like I can talk about my new cycle im running every few months..

At just short of 53 I think Im doing pretty damn good for myself. I am still and always striving to get better yet I am smart enough to realize I am who I am and work with what I got to be the best I can. I feel good, am healthy and damn sure look a whole lot better then 95% of the fuckers half my age so Im good with it. My work out/ gym ethics are strong and have not changed..nor will they. I hate a day when I miss the gym..

so that's the deal bro..keeping it real and working to improve.

if that's not the right answer..get fucked..:grin:
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Old 05-26-16, 09:05 AM
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Lip would you ever do a cycle?
I doubt it. I do and have thought about it. In the past and now I cant risk loosing my job. If it ever got out I did my employment would be terminated. So is it worth that risk to me...no. also on a bigger scale, Im pretty damn healthy and in good shape. the risk of getting shut down when everything still works good is a big one. Why take it? In a few years I may think differently, but with everything going well..why change? I'm not that vain. I am who I am.:grin:
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Old 05-26-16, 09:10 AM
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Ok rip fair enough. I do know I'm right when I say I know you can be better.

How about supps? Do you take some of the proven supps? Creatine mono absolutely works and is probably the most studied supp ever. Would give you a little bit of a filling effect to your muscles and enable you to train harder.

PWO creatine has been shown to be far more effective than pre workout creatine. so take it with a PWO shake if your not already.
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Old 05-26-16, 09:23 AM
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Ok rip fair enough. I do know I'm right when I say I know you can be better.

How about supps? Do you take some of the proven supps? Creatine mono absolutely works and is probably the most studied supp ever.
Funny you mention that...I got off everything I was taking over a year ago except the c-4 pre work out. I was actually thinking about getting back on creatine again. As im working a bit heavier and slower I thought it may actually show some. Im leaned out as far as I dare to at this point. as I said I even feel skinny in the first post.

But now Im gonna try and keep that lean and add a few back. when I first lost all the weight several years ago and got back into the gym. I was like yep..Ill get back to my old self and be 235 lbs again like in my 30's.... truth is that's not gonna happen at this age. Ive realized that. But that just means I have to work hard to keep in shape within my means. I think im doing that well. Im more comfortable with more weight on. but when I start hittin over 205 its just getting sloppy now...and I look softer. So I have to try to gain 5 lbs back to 200 and keep lean. when I can get that..then Ill try for 205.... just one step at a time. Im thinking working heavier will help...like I said Ive just switched it up and leaned out...now we will see if it works.... so you see...I haven't //lost it.... still going for it grasshopper :thumb:
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Old 05-26-16, 09:29 AM
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Funny you mention that...I got off everything I was taking over a year ago except the c-4 pre work out. I was actually thinking about getting back on creatine again. As im working a bit heavier and slower I thought it may actually show some. Im leaned out as far as I dare to at this point. as I said I even feel skinny in the first post.

But now Im gonna try and keep that lean and add a few back. when I first lost all the weight several years ago and got back into the gym. I was like yep..Ill get back to my old self and be 235 lbs again like in my 30's.... truth is that's not gonna happen at this age. Ive realized that. But that just means I have to work hard to keep in shape within my means. I think im doing that well. Im more comfortable with more weight on. but when I start hittin over 205 its just getting sloppy now...and I look softer. So I have to try to gain 5 lbs back to 200 and keep lean. when I can get that..then Ill try for 205.... just one step at a time. Im thinking working heavier will help...like I said Ive just switched it up and leaned out...now we will see if it works.... so you see...I haven't //lost it.... still going for it grasshopper :thumb:
just to give a comparison. I was using the c4 for years which only has 1g of creatine. i dropped that and switched to 5 grams post workout of the mono and already looking fuller a week in at 5 grams per day. th c4 not only has just 1 gram of creatine but it also has an inferior type of creatine compared to monohrdrate.

order this now and add it to pwo shake! cheap as hell and will last 6 months. http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrit.../dp/B002DYIZEO
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Old 05-26-16, 09:45 AM
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I don't understand your need to shit all over him lol. he's happy with the results. he looks better than 99% of ppl his age. he wanted to be lean for the summer and he is lean. if he said getting ready for my first show then id think differently. its all about personal preferences and goals. I doubt his role model is Jay Cutler. I'm actually envious of how hes having so much fun and enjoying life not at the gym 2hrs a day like most of us LOL

I do agree with you in that he ready to put on lean mass with AAS. that's a good time to do it. this shit isn't for everyone. don't see the reason to push it. lets be honest sups will only have a little impact.

If you want to go that route get blood work and see where your are at. due to age test levels will be lower naturally. if its medically prescribed would your job care? at this point I wouldn't start the sup bs. all the chemicals were exposing ourselves too. shit aint cheap either.
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Old 05-26-16, 09:52 AM
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jack im not shitting all over him at all. i don't understand how you can see it like that. knowing and wanting someone to be better than they currently are in my mind is being a good friend. rip can always count on me not to bs him. he can always count on me to tell it like it is. if he gets a compliment from me its because its truly deserved.

i look in the mirror every fucken day and say to myself "nope, not enough improvement work harder". this is how it should be. why should we be pleased with maintenance or normalcy?

take chuck for example. he knows he could look better, he knows he has a long way to go but when he posted his pics I gave him praise. why? because he has improved. all about moving forward. i dont see progress in rips pics and i'm not going to lie about it just to be friendly. that's fake IMO.
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Old 05-26-16, 10:06 AM
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what about HRT lip. All legal
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Old 05-26-16, 10:08 AM
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not shitting all over him at all. i don't understand how you can see it like that. knowing and wanting someone to be better than they currently are in my mind is being a good friend.

take chuck for example. he knows he could look better, he knows he has a long way to go but when he posted his pics I gave him praise. why? because he has improved. all about moving forward. i dont see progress in rips pics.
I see what your saying.
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Old 05-26-16, 10:22 AM
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Brah, looking good man...if you're happy and healthy, then fuck everything else
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Old 05-26-16, 11:34 AM
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what about HRT lip. All legal
Yea but the cost is high and the Army medical insurance wont cover it.
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Old 05-26-16, 11:36 AM
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Jack, I don't feel B is shitting all over me at all. hes calling it as he sees it. Im all about being straight up and fwd. At the same time where would he or most of the folks on this board be with out AAS over the years?
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Old 05-26-16, 11:46 AM
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jack im not shitting all over him at all. i don't understand how you can see it like that. knowing and wanting someone to be better than they currently are in my mind is being a good friend. rip can always count on me not to bs him. he can always count on me to tell it like it is. if he gets a compliment from me its because its truly deserved.

i look in the mirror every fucken day and say to myself "nope, not enough improvement work harder". this is how it should be. why should we be pleased with maintenance or normalcy?

take chuck for example. he knows he could look better, he knows he has a long way to go but when he posted his pics I gave him praise. why? because he has improved. all about moving forward. i dont see progress in rips pics and i'm not going to lie about it just to be friendly. that's fake IMO.
He still looks good and seems healthy. Not everyone has your mentality on what makes them happy. You're the type of person that needs constant reassurance to feel better about yourself while others are not. ..not a bad thing either. So don't get defensive
Just because he's not hardcore fanatic on drugs to make himself look bigger, perhaps his life is compete and that my friend is what matters
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Old 05-26-16, 12:24 PM
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Great, happy with life and all that. This is a fitness forum so I'm not really concerned with life outside of the fitness world. You don't talk about biceps on a car forum for example.

I don't expect rip to look like a steroid user but I do expect improvement or at least maintenance. He was bigger and leaner in avatar. In my mind that means he hasn't been as dedicated.
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Old 05-26-16, 12:30 PM
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Looking great Lip. Screw all the haters!
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Old 05-26-16, 12:33 PM
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Great, happy with life and all that. This is a fitness forum so I'm not really concerned with life outside of the fitness world.

I don't expect rip to look like a steroid user but I do expect improvement or at least maintenance. He was bigger and leaner in avatar.
A fitness forum that also has a life meaning behind it. Many viewers see or read our board that we call home on a daily basis. Fitness, life, health, family, work, etc.....all of that falls under lips life, trust me it does.

Many of us here will say it like it is, and that's good! But again, the guy hunts, works, etc....he seems to have a great life going, I'm kinda jealous to be honest because of all the great food he kills.

Many of us here work, have a business, etc...we csnt always be so focused on lifting or getting big...it's called balance. If i could read google all day, watch dickwad piana, search articles, etc....then sure, my mind would be 100000% on fitness all day.

Bro, life is about enjoying everything it has to offer and if the offerings are not good enough...well sir, YOU can only change that...not google or watching piana.
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Old 05-26-16, 12:38 PM
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This thread and this forum is about fitness is it not? That's the topic. Nobody said life is fitness and that's all that should be discussed in life. Your going in different directions here bro. Stay the course.
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Old 05-26-16, 12:41 PM
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This thread and this forum is about fitness is it not? That's the topic. Nobody said life is fitness and that's all that should be discussed in life. Your going in different directions here bro. Stay the course.
Well, I learned this from you ;)
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Old 05-26-16, 12:41 PM
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For being in your 50's and natural I think you've done pretty good for yourself bro. My dad is mid 50s right now and definitely doesnt look that lean.
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Old 05-26-16, 12:42 PM
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And for fucks sake lip....every time I open this thread, I have to scroll rapidly because I don't want others thinking I'm looking at naked men
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Old 05-26-16, 12:45 PM
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Agree. What would rips army buddies say about that pic.
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Agree. What would rips army buddies say about that pic.


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Old 05-26-16, 12:49 PM
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This thread and this forum is about fitness is it not? That's the topic. Nobody said life is fitness and that's all that should be discussed in life. Your going in different directions here bro. Stay the course.
I get where rado is at and hes right. if that's the case your saying B..then why all the sub forums and general chat.. If the board whould be nothing but fitness...it would die.. hell look at half of the bullshit you google and post
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Old 05-26-16, 12:50 PM
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And for fucks sake lip....every time I open this thread, I have to scroll rapidly because I don't want others thinking I'm looking at naked men
hey I can let my shit swing in the breeze..Im good with it..:thumb:
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hey I can let my shit swing in the breeze..Im good with it..:thumb:
Eww
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Agree. What would rips army buddies say about that pic.
LMAO..they are all fat fucks now drinking beer and setting on the couch..have a 1/4 acre yard that they have a riding mower for cause they don't have the energy to push a mower....never mind even think about going to a gym... probably exactly how your ass will be at 53:laugh:
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Old 05-26-16, 12:53 PM
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No gray hair on my balls yet..Im still good to go bro!!:grin:
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These are the guys that have communal shitters in their barracks. Doubt his buddies are seeing anything they haven't seen before.
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These are the guys that have communal shitters in their barracks. Doubt his buddies are seeing anything they haven't seen before.
yea nothing like being next to your buddy..waiting for him to finish wiping his ass so you can get the roll of TP next...those were the days..

Fucking NTC in California...prime example...:thumb:
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Yeah, must be great having detailed knowledge of your buddy's wiping style - front to back, back to front, reach from front, reach from back, etc..lol...
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Yeah, must be great having detailed knowledge of your buddy's wiping style - front to back, back to front, reach from front, reach from back, etc..lol...
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My dad is mid 50s right now and definitely doesnt look that lean.
So what? Why do you compare the average to rip? He's not the average 50 something year old. He traines and eats much better than average. Is our standard for how someone looks by comparing them to the average joe? Fuck that, I have higher standards for rip.

Compare me to normal guy and I look like Mr O. Compare me to actual Mr O and I look like a turd who don't even lift. I don't get inspiration by comparing myself to the average. I wanna compare myself to the best so I always have a goal to reach for.

The fuck is wrong with you fellas!?

Rip, don't listen to these gays. Train harder, eat harder, get on creatine and kill it.

And if I hear about "being happy and content with life" once more I'm going to snap.
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Get his fat ass on here cause he clearly needs to be told the truth! j/k
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Get his fat ass on here cause he clearly needs to be told the truth! j/k
He won't drop the beer no matter what. Fucker gets gout attacks and still hits the bar daily. Gut or not, he's got decent arms though. Didn't get those genes unfortunately.
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Great, happy with life and all that. This is a fitness forum so I'm not really concerned with life outside of the fitness world. You don't talk about biceps on a car forum for example.

I don't expect rip to look like a steroid user but I do expect improvement or at least maintenance. He was bigger and leaner in avatar. In my mind that means he hasn't been as dedicated.
Agreed he could do better.

50% of the discussion on here isn't fitness related.
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Jack, I don't feel B is shitting all over me at all. hes calling it as he sees it. Im all about being straight up and fwd. At the same time where would he or most of the folks on this board be with out AAS over the years?
so what are you going to do about it? seemed like you had reached your goal by the post. you weren't asking for criticism?
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Agreed he could do better.

50% of the discussion on here isn't fitness related.
I'm not saying all the discussion has to be that. I'm simply saying it's become a thing when someone hasn't got a certain level of results to say "oh well family and life get in the way".

Like what the fuck kinda attitude is that to have on a bodybuilding forum? "Oh Rado let his legs get down to twigs but that's ok as long as he's happy".... GTFO.
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so what are you going to do about it? seemed like you had reached your goal by the post. you weren't asking for criticism?
Not doing nothing about anything. I wanted to get leaner for the summer and I did it. That's all this was about. nothing more. B just has his thoughts on what someone should look like or strive to be for a goal. I enjoy staying in shape I enjoy working out and being healthy but I never have or had any inspirations to be a body builder. I work out to maintain my outdoor life style and to look fit. I like this place for what it is..good discussion, great tips on working out etc. and lots of ball busting and fun. great place to relieve the stress from day today...:thumb:

When I was younger and in the Army I was a lot bigger guy. I was 235 with the same waist I have now at 34 inches. When I retired from the Army I turned into a piece of shit and let it all go until a few years ago. I got re motivated. Unfortunately that many years later I got soft and fat and lost all my size..:laugh: I turned into a piece of shit. Now Im back in shape I have been for several years, unfortunately at my age its damn near impossible for me to put that size back on I used to have. But Im good with it. It is what it is..:thumb:

So Im good with me being and old dude that's working it.. here B today with some undies on just for you big guy... Hope you have night mares..:laugh::laugh:
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I didn't mean to turn your thread into something negative rip. I just think you could be a better version of yourself and I'd like to see you be that.
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Old 05-27-16, 07:51 AM
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I didn't mean to turn your thread into something negative rip. I just think you could be a better version of yourself and I'd like to see you be that.
I hear ya bro, and Im always working on it..as you should know more then anyone all changes progress in one thing yet may cause a set back in another. In the end its all working towards a goal maybe short term or long term.. I remember when you got real leaned out a while back you complained on how you lost size to do it..but ya wanted to be super lean...you got it.....at a cost. You were all over Rados ass at that point for being a fat fuck because you had gotten so leaned out..:laugh::laugh:
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Old 05-27-16, 08:08 AM
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i hear ya. and i agree with the point that you made yesterday about how it's easy to have my type of attitude when you have the help of a bunch of drugs. i get that and I agree with it.

still though, i know i'm right when i say that if you compare yourself to the average guy your age you'll never feel the need to really improve because the average guy your age is an absolute turd. of course your better than them. but like i said, i have higher standards for you brother. compared to a turtle i'm an olympics level sprinter ya know what I mean?
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Old 05-27-16, 08:17 AM
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I know this isn't a great pic but its all I could find me when I was around 35 or 36 years old a few years before I retired out of the Army. I never should of gotten lazy... lesson to be learned fellows....:thumb:

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