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Old 02-22-16, 11:37 PM
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So tommorrow I'm getting a lumbar cortisone epidural. I'm a ways improved from months ago but I'm left with a stenosis caused by a disk bulge at L4

The surgeon feels that with this procedure the pain should decrease and the mobility should increase so that with full training enabled and cardio and reduced inflammation brought by the cortisone it could heal in that window of pain free time.

If not I will need the bulge trimmed.

A tumour was also found but that's another matter.

I'm looking to alter my training slightly and anything that causes me to squirm around on a bench in upright position with heavy weights over is out for a while.

I need to protect the area so the belt will be going on tight and ill just get in fixed position. No more heavy dumbell shoulder press for a while, won't be leg pressing beyond 90 degrees or back squatting.

This doesn't mean I won't be working tge stomach and lower back, far from it I will be doing hypers, reverse hypers, lighter deadlifts and probably some low cable pulley rows but I won't be bent rowing 400lbs or deadlifting 600 + for a while. It's about rehabilitation and fitness.

One exercise I will be trying in zercher squats, it apparently takes all the compressive load off the spine and puts a heavy influence on the core stabilisers which sounds beneficial
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Old 02-22-16, 11:38 PM
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Old 02-22-16, 11:55 PM
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in my thoughts brother. hope it fixes the problem. pain is such a fucken drain.

that tumor thing.. not serious right?
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Old 02-23-16, 12:07 AM
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Not really thinking about that at this point, they'll be biopsy coming up.
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Old 02-23-16, 12:13 AM
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one thing at a time i hear ya. keep updated.
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Old 02-23-16, 12:18 AM
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Watch "Lumbar Epidural Cortisone Injection - Back Pain Shot" on YouTube
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This is the procedure in quick time, I'm fucking excited as grim as it looks if it eventually takes the pain from my leg. No more fucking tablets
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Procedure done.

Now its wait and see time
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Old 02-23-16, 04:08 PM
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Was it easy? Any pain doing it? Needle in the spine right?
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Old 02-23-16, 04:28 PM
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Yeah the anaesthetic is a small needle. Once the area is numbed they put the big one in.

It's not so much painful but you feel the size of it displacing you.

Then once they pumped a the stuff in I went almost deaf and felt a big rush of pressure un the head for 40 seconds.

They put it above the problem so that it drains down the epidural with gravity over time.

Says to wait 7 days then I'm good to exercise. We shall see
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Old 02-23-16, 09:18 PM
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Good luck with everything man. No fun to be in pain.
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Old 02-23-16, 10:25 PM
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Goodluck Mr. I. Get better and get back to lifting man
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Old 02-24-16, 12:51 AM
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Stop your fucking moaning and carrying on and just lift some weight
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Old 02-24-16, 07:24 AM
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Hope it works out for ya.. good luck
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Old 02-24-16, 07:59 AM
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Thanks guys I'm hoping for the best
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Old 02-25-16, 12:38 PM
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Update

48 hours after the procedure

I'm not pain free but it's significantly reduced and appears to be reducing by the day. I've been told not to exercise for 7 days after the procedure so just following orders for now.

So far so good and I would recommend the pricedure
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Good to hear Mr. I. Hopefully you can start lifting soon and start killing it again
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You probably mentioned this before but what was the cause of the pain you were/are having?
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It's a good question because it gives me the opportunity to share what I learned. When you get an MRI scan at 39 years old it's bound to show up a bunch of stuff. The challenge is finding which actually causes the pain!

In my case the orthopedic surgeon feels that a significant disk bulge at L4/L5 combined with degenerative disk disease (quite common) is causing a lateral recess stenosis (a thinning of the normal space), thus impinging the sciatic nerve

The sciatic nerve btw is not one single root it's a group of small roots like fingers that come out from the spine and in between the vertebrea, then join like fingers to an arm onto one main nerve down each buttock and down each leg. I'll try and attach the most telling photo I took of an on screen MRI image, you will see that the vertical white line to the right (column), is broken into by the disk at L4/L5
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Incidentally the orthopedic surgeon has treat bodybuilders before and said I have the perfect shaped back curve for bodybuilding but on the flip side it's prone to such

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I have the perfect shaped penis
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Damn I missed this thread. Get well soon bro!

I had some medical stuff going on this week as well. I had another upper GI scoping this week since last time they found abnormal motility disorder and extra waviness in my esophogous. They prescribed me a PPI for 6 weeks and rescoped and rebiopsied to see if there is improvement. If it is improved they want to do a surgery on the valve at the top of my stomach so I don't have to be on medicine forever. If it isn't improved then I have a possible food allergy that if it can't be found and removed from my diet then I have to be on an oral steroid like prednisone forever. Not ideal at all so hopefully the PPI is repairing it and it is all due to reflux.
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Question? It's been 72 hrs since they I jetted my epidural and thry put a sealed plaster over the point of I injection. Should I take it off now?
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Question? It's been 72 hrs since they I jetted my epidural and thry put a sealed plaster over the point of I injection. Should I take it off now?
How about you ask your doctor instead of a bunch of internet assholes? We wouldn't know our ass from our elbows.
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Yes I would rip that shit off bro
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How about you ask your doctor instead of a bunch of internet assholes? We wouldn't know our ass from our elbows.
Because I'm not sick

It's just a protocol type question, the kind if thing people might know about on here.

I've hardly ever been operated on so not much clue
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Possibly some good news, a friend is in a bad way and may need help walking his dog while he recovers. He lives close to me so although walking causes me some pain, so long as I can stop at intervals this could be an ideal opportunity. I like to get put and walk but feel kind of odd walking on my own as big as I am.

Better yet the dog is an 11 month old cane corso. So I get to help a friend out and have a rehab buddy
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Possibly some good news, a friend is in a bad way and may need help walking his dog while he recovers. He lives close to me so although walking causes me some pain, so long as I can stop at intervals this could be an ideal opportunity. I like to get put and walk but feel kind of odd walking on my own as big as I am.

Better yet the dog is an 11 month old cane corso. So I get to help a friend out and have a rehab buddy
Don't mean to turn a positive into a negative but Is the dog a puller? My pit would put you in the hospital the way she pulls. I'm gonna have to look into what's called a gentle leader. Pulls the head down if they pull. No bullshit this dog could pull a bag of cement up Everest. Unbelievable strength and stamina.

Anyway, just make sure the dog isn't a puller on leash. The type of breed and the fact that it's 11 months tells me that it probably is. Don't want you to fuck yourself up worse. These types of dog are amazingly strong.
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Well at 11 months old he already weighs 100lbs

But i'm 250 lb and im not that fragile. Is that what you mean or is there more for me to think about?

I'll keep it on a leash. He's just been neutered
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Absolutely more to think about.

My pit at 9 months and 65 lbs pulls with about 3 times as much energy, endurance, and strength than my mom's 150lbs Rottweiler or my 120lb bull mastiff ever did.

It's also the bursts of power in the pull. She sees a squirrel an your arm will come off if your not prepared.

I'm not sure if a cane is more like a rotty and mastiff or if they are more like a pit on leash. Just be prepared and don't hurt yourself more.
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Can is basically like a bull mastiff in size and power and personality although this one is young
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Yea it's the young part that has me a bit worried for your back. Even trained, young dogs tend to be a bit wild. Not just the pulling in a straight line part either. It's the side to side tug that can hurt.

I definitely have to pop a few ibuprofen after a 2 hour hike with my 65lb mighty mouse. Lol
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Might not look like much but those little legs can pull a dead elephant through a swamp if need be. Lol

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Have you actually got a pit bull or is it a staff?
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"Pitbull" is a wide ranging description of a group of dogs. American Staffordshire Terror falls under that category. The English Staffordshire Bull terrier is much smaller than what I have. The English version weighs at max 40lbs, far smaller than the American counterpart.

So while I have an Amstaff it would also be classified as a "pitbull" by law enforcment or the media if she ever did anything wrong.

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That's not what I thought was a pit but I take your point it's a widely used term.
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Watch "Giant Pit Bull Hulk's $500,000 Puppy Litter" on YouTube
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That's not what I thought was a pit but I take your point it's a widely used term.
Most people don't actually know what a Putbull is. If your thinking of one of those huge stocky dogs that looks like a pitbull your confused. Those dogs are a mix of a pitbull and a mastiff. The "Hulk" pitbull famous on the internet is the perfect example of this. A pure bred pitbull is much leaner and much more athletic. A real pit will run circles around one of these mixed bully breeds.


Real Pitbull aka American Staffy:



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Pitbull Mixed with Other Large Dog Breed:

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Got it!

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The American staff is way prettier
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and much more functional. the mixed version has tons of health issues and they are lazy as fuck. real pits are working dogs that can go all day long. the American bully mix gets winded taking a piss. they are bred strictly for the look of size and everything else be damned. They come only from "backyard breeders" usually from the deep south.
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Is the first one what you would call an American pitbull or just a pitbull
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Is the first one what you would call an American pitbull or just a pitbull
No such thing as "American pitbull". It's American Staffordshire Terrier or just Pitbull.

The big bulky mixed breeds are called "American Bully's". A mixed group of bully breeds like pitbulls mixed with bull mastiff etc..
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Ok so, it's been ten days since my cortisone epidural.

They say it's effect peaks about this time and hopefully lasts a good while.

Well, I woke up slow and in some pain but again better than a couple days previous. Monday this week I saw the osteo and he said there was alot more play/movement between the vertebrea. This week I've been feeling annoyed. This is a good sign for me as it means I'm out from under it, and starting to dominate it. It's the same if I get sick, to begin with I feel sorry for myself but when I'm coming out the hole I get angry because I have the mental and physical capacity to back it up.

Now today what took the edge was that after five days of only taking Tylenol where needed. I was pissed off in the que at the shop and bought some asprin. O hadn't taken any Tylenol yet today.

Well the asprin virtually took out the rest of the nagging pain completely!! And thus afternoon and evening I've bee walking around in the house like normal.

so its virtually gone with asprin.

Now I have a theory - the blood vessels that supply that area are very small. Asprin thins the blood...
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One thing I have noticed. I'm sad to say it but since I've come down from 250 or so to 235 because I'm not really training so my appetite is gone. Well everyone keeps saying how much better I look haha
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All in all at this point I would definitely recommend ESI epidural steroid injection if you have chronic sciatica, over going straight for surgery
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Do you feel like this will potentially fix the problem? Or is it sort of a temporary relief that will return when the injection effects fades away?
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Not sure yet but it feels alot better
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