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Old 04-29-16, 07:31 AM
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as funny as that would probably be, i can't say I would want to see him go through that. a lot of you guys here seem to be "okay" with coming off and dealing with all that comes with that. not mr.i. he's similar to me in that regard. i've seen the up and down roller coaster on here that he goes through. certain fellas are too high strung to deal with feeling beta.
Trust me I know what you mean. Everytime I come off I lose 20lbs and feel like a bitch. I hate looking in the mirror when im off. My problem is I am too aware of the health impacts when I am on and it scares me. When i am taking stuff that puts my pulse up nearly 20 beats and my BP borderline and with history of heart disease in family. Already diagnosed with enlarged heart. What am I supoosed to do? I would love to stay on but I guess if it comes to staying on or staying healthy, these days I will take the latter.
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Old 04-29-16, 07:34 AM
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Old 04-29-16, 03:44 PM
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Growth hormone treatment enhances the functional recovery of sciatic nerves after transection and repair. - PubMed - NCBI


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Old 05-01-16, 07:47 PM
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Well, I took my first long walk today at my local beautiful park and sometimes race course. Walked like a bit if a gimp with my foot drop but enjoyed the sunny day and fresh air and virtually no pain. I could feel my body thanking me and tonight I feel more relaxed and went to watch Captain America Civil War which is the first time I've been able to go to the cinema in six months.

My plan is to keep up the gentle strolls in the park daily for the first phase of healing the disk after discectomy, so 2-3 weeks.

After this I will commence swimming regular and make that my new excercise for the next few months.
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Old 05-02-16, 02:07 AM
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I'm just going to keep on rabiting on in this blog thread now although after citing the problems / symptoms, the attempted self cure, the neccassary operation, im now talking mainly about recovery and come back.

So in addition to TrT I'm doing 4 iu if pharma grade gh ed. Also I'm brought in and made conscious effort to regularly take a new vitamin stack as follows to promote healing;

Solar VM 2000
Extra vitamin C 5 grams
Extra Vit D
B complex
Chelated multi minerals
Zinc picolate
Magnesium citrate
Super cirrus
Bisweila*
Ashawangara*
Fish oils 8 grams
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Old 05-02-16, 06:47 AM
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Old 05-02-16, 07:37 AM
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I'm just going to keep on rabiting on in this blog thread now although after citing the problems / symptoms, the attempted self cure, the neccassary operation, im now talking mainly about recovery and come back.

So in addition to TrT I'm doing 4 iu if pharma grade gh ed. Also I'm brought in and made conscious effort to regularly take a new vitamin stack as follows to promote healing;

Solar VM 2000
Extra vitamin C 5 grams
Extra Vit D
B complex
Chelated multi minerals
Zinc picolate
Magnesium citrate
Super cirrus
Bisweila*
Ashawangara*
Fish oils 8 grams
GH, A Good multi-vit to cover the bases, and the fish oil. that's all id use out of that list of voodoo.

Too much Vit-C supposedly hinders muscle gains. Gonna post a study here in a bit.
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Old 05-02-16, 07:54 AM
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GH, A Good multi-vit to cover the bases, and the fish oil. that's all id use out of that list of voodoo.

Too much Vit-C supposedly hinders muscle gains. Gonna post a study here in a bit.
Cool thanks my man

Ar this point I'm more about helping the body heal from operation as opposed to building muscle. Just completed a lil mile walk over rough terrain. Sounds petty but it's building stability back where needed.
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Staples come out in two days, Rambo stuff
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Old 05-03-16, 06:35 PM
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Well they actually took the staples out today

As far as my back goes I feel way way better than I did before the op
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Old 05-03-16, 07:52 PM
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We're are the staples in back? Right at mid spine I assume?
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Old 05-04-16, 01:06 AM
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We're are the staples in back? Right at mid spine I assume?
Pretty much bro, gone now
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Old 05-04-16, 07:41 AM
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Woke up this morning, back feels ten years younger.:grin:
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Old 05-04-16, 06:56 PM
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How's the appetite? Still chocking down "Chigurt" shakes?
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Old 05-05-16, 02:13 AM
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Just eat as I feel now, two or three times a day. Soon as I start my swimming it will pick up I'm sure.

Would is probably about five days off healing at the skin at which point I'll swim
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Old 05-07-16, 04:38 PM
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We need to get Mr. I a walker nigg needs one
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Old 05-07-16, 05:07 PM
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Fucking 70 year old mother is quicker round the park at this point lol
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Old 05-08-16, 11:04 AM
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11 days since the op. Healing fast outside
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Looks like a split roasted Christmas hog.
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Old 05-10-16, 04:55 AM
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It's nearly time bitches Watch "Arnold Schwarzenegger Commando Gear Up Scene" on YouTube
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Old 05-13-16, 03:25 PM
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PT starts next week hopefully with clearance to excercise! I'm back
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Old 05-13-16, 04:14 PM
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"you'll need another 6 months off Albert I'm sorry".

I'd end up in the fucken Looney Bin.
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Old 05-13-16, 04:16 PM
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Haha for sure no rushing, can't afford to any more, the old battleship has taken some hammer
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Old 05-16-16, 04:17 PM
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3 weeks to the day tomorrow since discectomy, Rules:

1) no compression or sheer force or torquing for at least two months but more like three.
2) Still got drop foot so need to beware of instability

Plan of attack; real light to begin, mix and match

Day 1) chest and shoulders, chest, side laterals and rear on machine.

Day 2) back - pull downs, chest pad support T bar, close grip pull downs, hammer chest support rows. Arms, machine for biceps

Day 3) legs; leg press to 90 just like 4 plates aside, ham curls, seated calf.

Cardio after each, try stationary bike as supposed to be good for drop foot and steady
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Old 05-16-16, 07:37 PM
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Just saw this thread. Get well soon!!! Also higher vitamin c intake is hard on the kidneys from a study I recall reading.
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Old 05-17-16, 02:14 PM
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Just saw this thread. Get well soon!!! Also higher vitamin c intake is hard on the kidneys from a study I recall reading.
Thank you

I actually wonder whether I should have, could have had this op sooner.

Noted on the amounts of vits, in parallel I'm off diazepam, off tramadol as of yesterday and looking to stop the gabupentin (anti spasmodic) since today
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Old 05-18-16, 10:56 AM
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First workout in the bag!!

Shaking while pressing, no endurance because very little glycogen retention but it's done.

The next two to three months is all about getting everything moving again and mobility while avoiding compression and torque excercises.

I've convinced one of my pals to get involved which I know sounds crazy coming from me but he's a nerd like me and will be helping pt me for a couple months as a pre hypertrophy phase.

I won't post every workout just stuff that may be vaguely interesting, as a log and for someone who may encounter the same issue I had and be looking to see what others did to get back.
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Old 05-19-16, 08:09 PM
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Tommorrow workout: Back and arms;

Lat pull downs - strict no lean light
Hammer pull down chest supported
Hammer rows chest supported
Chest supported t bar

Arms: machine preacher then cable pushdown

That's it apart from some ab work and stationary bike

See I'm eliminating any torque/sheer force against my lower back

In weeks to come ill add light low cable row
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Old 05-22-16, 11:40 PM
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Has your doctor ever brought up a procedure called a nucleoplasty?

I had L5/S1 issues and this fixed my sciatica. Not all specialists conduct this kind of procedure. It is relatively new. It did wonders for me though. Its extremely noninvasive outpatient procedure and i was on my feet the next day doing fine. look it up, not sure if it would help your specific situation...but it really changed my life.
So you herniated S1 L5 but it didn't herniated into nerves so bad to cut any off just numbness. S1 L5 is a small disk.

Herniated disks will eventually self heal and so long as they dont fragment off its not neccessary to operate. So you took the cortisone shot after this? That took the pain away while the area self healed.
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Old 05-23-16, 12:26 PM
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So you herniated S1 L5 but it didn't herniated into nerves so bad to cut any off just numbness. S1 L5 is a small disk.

Herniated disks will eventually self heal and so long as they dont fragment off its not neccessary to operate. So you took the cortisone shot after this? That took the pain away while the area self healed.

It caused some nerve issues in my right leg. Not so much numbmess, more so sharp stinging pains like I was getting stabbed from my ass to my foot. They tried doing a nerve block before my surgery which was relatively ineffective as well. At other times though my leg would give out on me and my leg would be really weak..
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Old 05-23-16, 12:36 PM
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I'm pretty clued up on bodybuilding but decided to get a guy I know in board for some specialist training. We worked on band hip thrusts to get the left side glute and ham especially activated but generally tge gluten overall as they've been inactive for so long. Then did a bunch of floor excercises for the core. Finished off with some all over body power movements, floor press with legs raised and laid back rope pullovers

Well I had to drop out the last set as I tasted puke ha

So that was a good part to my day.

Sadly I went to the physio and my tibialis anterior is still completely dead but it's ok ill take that over the pain anyday
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Old 05-28-16, 01:43 PM
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So today's workout;

Stood up band hip thrusts
Stood up band rows
Band up in front to arms up vertical above head band raises
Band under foot side raises
Upright rows bands
Pull back elbows up high for rear felt bands
Finished off with light dumbell presses onky going to 660lb

Note: this completely shields the low back area I'm healing

Felt great, really burned
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Old 06-01-16, 02:37 PM
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Today's

Lateral cable cross two hand hold out in front, 4 sets 30 seconds each with increasing weight. Fight the twist.

Floor press flat bench, worked up to 350 lb then a burnout

Seated upright hammer row pull and hold squeeze no body movement chest support padded.

That's it. Strength is increasing and to top it I now have a flicker in the shin muscle when I try and lift my toes up and less numbness in the lower leg and foot

Something is happening
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Old 06-07-16, 05:32 PM
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It's tough but very real starting from the bottom up. But I love these times of solitude and mindfulness so ill take the odd snap. Long Road ahead but I love it
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It's tough but very real starting from the bottom up. But I love these times of solitude and mindfulness so ill take the odd snap. Long Road ahead but I love it
Still looking good tho brother!
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I'm impressed by the way you've handled all this mentally. Great attitude through the whole thing.
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Old 06-13-16, 04:24 PM
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Well today I did my first regular workout. Chest and biceps.

I'll be mixing in some lumbar work alongside and training light but apart from the foot drop (slightly improved), and of course being careful with low back. I'm basically back to a normalish routine
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anymore movement in that paralyzed area?
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More tibialis anterior engagement, probably about 2 mm more movement dorsoflexion
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I take no pain killers or sleep aids now and I'm fine
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Out of usual shape but back in the game. This is hard

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Didn't take you long at all to get your strength back. Looking good man!
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Couldn't get that 10th rep huh?




j/k, man that's some weight you're moving
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Didn't take you long at all to get your strength back. Looking good man!
ha had lower back and leg injury. fuck him. lets seem him do some leg shit. pussy.
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Looking strong Mr. I. Keep it up
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Old 07-21-16, 03:16 PM
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Thanks guys.

I trained legs today and honestly it's hard. I can barely standing hamstring curl 11 lb left side.

But it's progress and by contrast my leg press is getting stronger very fast
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