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  • USA Patriot Act.

    What do you guys think of this act? I know it supposed to help with terror acts in the US but damn, seems like our privacy is gone!! Read below.


    Expanded Surveillance With Reduced Checks and Balances. USAPA expands all four traditional tools of surveillance -- wiretaps, search warrants, pen/trap orders and subpoenas. Their counterparts under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that allow spying in the U.S. by foreign intelligence agencies have similarly been expanded. This means:
    Be careful what you put in that Google search. The government may now spy on web surfing of innocent Americans, including terms entered into search engines, by merely telling a judge anywhere in the U.S. that the spying could lead to information that is "relevant" to an ongoing criminal investigation. The person spied on does not have to be the target of the investigation. This application must be granted and the government is not obligated to report to the court or tell the person spied upon what it has done.
    Nationwide roving wiretaps. FBI and CIA can now go from phone to phone, computer to computer without demonstrating that each is even being used by a suspect or target of an order. The government may now serve a single wiretap, FISA wiretap or pen/trap order on any person or entity nationwide, regardless of whether that person or entity is named in the order. The government need not make any showing to a court that the particular information or communication to be acquired is relevant to a criminal investigation. In the pen/trap or FISA situations, they do not even have to report where they served the order or what information they received. The EFF believes that the opportunities for abuse of these broad new powers are immense. For pen/trap orders, ISPs or others who are not named in the do have authority under the law to request certification from the Attorney General's office that the order applies to them, but they do not have the authority to request such confirmation from a court.
    ISPs hand over more user information. The law makes two changes to increase how much information the government may obtain about users from their ISPs or others who handle or store their online communications. First it allows ISPs to voluntarily hand over all "non-content" information to law enforcement with no need for any court order or subpoena. sec. 212. Second, it expands the records that the government may seek with a simple subpoena (no court review required) to include records of session times and durations, temporarily assigned network (I.P.) addresses; means and source of payments, including credit card or bank account numbers. secs. 210, 211.

  • #2
    All it's going to do is keep them from giving the convicted loop holes for what the government already does.

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    • #3
      the government blows as we all know. vote libertarian next election. there are no such thing as checks and balances anymore because the legislature basically elects the president and the president puts judges into their positions. so where do the favors stop? to them it is just a big game of who is the coolest person in office.

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      • #4
        Exactly. If were suppose to elect the president why is it about the electorial college. Now I know it's because of people like me who dosen't pay attention to politics. Our country would go to shit if I was one of those people decideing who would run what. But for those who actually have an interest it really takes away form their voice.

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        • #5
          That act seems very disturbing to tell you the truth. However i dont blame the goverment after what happened to us on 9-11. The freedom that we still have after this act was put into action is still alot more freedom than any other country in the world has got, whether or not they like to admit it.

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          • #6
            glad I live in canada

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            • #7
              I got an idea... let take more of our citizens freedoms to protect them from our political enemies that we make with poor international policy.

              I got an idea? Why dont we get the fuck out of the middle east?

              Didnt we learn our lesson the first time in vietnam?

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              • #8
                its just more ways of stepping on our rights.

                ya, we need to keep a close eye on terrorists but feel they are using it just to invade our lives more with less restrictions on there part.

                big brother has a closer eye on us and it will get worse all in the name of homeland security.

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                • #9
                  Well alot of it is updating are abuse of the freedom we are givin. As technology becomes more advance so will are ways of abusing the things we take for granted. Alot of the rights we are basis on the way of life hundredes of years ago. If we all would live life as genuine as they did back then, we wouldn't need so much intervention.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by house1
                    its just more ways of stepping on our rights.

                    ya, we need to keep a close eye on terrorists but feel they are using it just to invade our lives more with less restrictions on there part.

                    big brother has a closer eye on us and it will get worse all in the name of homeland security.


                    agree:agree:

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                    • #11
                      what rights ???there were gon along time ago ,the land of the free ya right !!!!!they say u want protection ?well this is the price of it ,there chance to fuck u pretty much ,

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                      • #12
                        Everyone will always bitch but remeber you still have the right to leave if you want. Alot of people don't have that choice.

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                        • #13
                          oh yeah leave and go where ???like u can just pick up sell everything and leave ???

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                          • #14
                            no we don't have to leave. this is a country BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE. they are suppose to do what we want. but only morons run for office. just like in high school. I will always agree with George Washington, when he said that any man who wants the office of president should not have it. the man should be literally forced in from the populous against his wishes to serve because the man who is wary of office is the man for the job.

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                            • #15
                              on its way quickly on beeinga police state !!!

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