Is it necessary to bake if I filter with a .2 filter?

[Stonecold54]

just wondering if it necessary to bake the final product if I filter with a .2 micron filter? does baking really kill anything that the BA and filtering miss?

[G-S]

Baking is a waste of time, I think.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by G-S
Baking is a waste of time, I think.

that is what I was thinking after reading what a micron filter gets. plust the fact that my needle always melts that is stuck in the top to let the air out. LOL

[G-S]

For what it's worth, I've never baked anything other than some IP sust back in the day - and that didn't help one bit.

[LORDBLiTZ]

It will be fine with a .2 micron filter

[Core]

I don't know. I think it depends on how cautious you want to be.

You really have three lines of defense against microbes when you make your injectable.

1) BA content
2) Filter
3) thermal steralization (baking)

I personally wouldn't inject anything I created unless I baked it three times first. I also rebake injectables that have sat for 3 or more months in the fridge.

I mean if it reduces the possibilty of getting an infection and it doesn't cost you anything, why wouldn't you bake your transdermal?

BTW I used a .45 micron filter. I think I tried a .2 once but blew the thing up from all the pressure of filtering through it.

[Lmg2701]

Baking wouldn't catch anything a .2 wouldn't have already caught. Basically if you use a .2 don't even worry about baking, besides baking at a high enough temp. to kill most things would damage your gear anyways.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Core
I don't know. I think it depends on how cautious you want to be.

You really have three lines of defense against microbes when you make your injectable.

1) BA content
2) Filter
3) thermal steralization (baking)

I personally wouldn't inject anything I created unless I baked it three times first. I also rebake injectables that have sat for 3 or more months in the fridge.

I mean if it reduces the possibilty of getting an infection and it doesn't cost you anything, why wouldn't you bake your transdermal?

BTW I used a .45 micron filter. I think I tried a .2 once but blew the thing up from all the pressure of filtering through it.

I would only use .2 filters and like it was said it will catch everything that baking will kill. I have found that about 40-50mls of a mix will run through a .2 filter before it starts to slow. I have just got done filtering about 300 total mls for me and some buddies.

[flashpoint]

Core,

You rebake injectables? So not only do you destroy some of the gear to begin with, you rebake it causing further degradation.

I figure the reason people end up with shit black tren and other things, and they wonder why, its becaues you bake them ;)

[GATOR]

What temps are you guys using or thinking of using?
How about just heating the solution in a boil-bath to suspend the hormone??? Will this harm it at all?

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by GATOR
What temps are you guys using or thinking of using?
How about just heating the solution in a boil-bath to suspend the hormone??? Will this harm it at all?

boiling it is fine to intitially suspend the solution. it only takes a few minutes to achieve this though.

[flashpoint]

I'm referring to how people bake their gear for like 15-45 minutes on 175F-250F to disinfect it. If they do that, they are confused anyway...because its not the temperature that kills them. What the process is supposed to be is hot, to cold, to hot, to cold...and so on. So you are supposed to bake it to get it hot for so many minutes, than take it out and chill it...and repeat as necessary. I haven't done this because I feared the vials breaking due to rapid change in temperature.

[wasp]

what about the.45 filters? bake or not?

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by wasp
what about the.45 filters? bake or not?

I just have my doubts that baking or doing the hot to cold will do anything. but of course everyone in the world makes fina with a .45 so not everyone is getting infections. but just to be safe I would use .2's from now on.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by wasp
what about the.45 filters? bake or not?

Its a matter of %s. Almost all bacteria is larger then .45. There are however some rare ones that can fit (most are not harmful being cyanobacteria or the like) through a .45. .22 will catch virtually all the bacteria and most mold spores. There are some nano bacteria that are as small as .05 but the odds of you getting them are nil.

This is also why using BA or the like is so important, to catch anything that the filter might have missed/