Woo Hoo almost that time, cycle critique please

[Jrod]

Ok, well I almost have everything for my upcoming cycle but I had a couple of quick questions
First of all, my cycle as I have planned right now will look something like this

Week 1-10 500mgs sust
week 1-10 300 mgs deca
week 1-5 25-30 mgs dbol ed
week 7-15 3i.u. Nutropin AQ ed
week 10-12 Winstrol 50 mg eod
week 12-15 start post cycle with clomid and nolva

ok, here are my questions
1. I am going to have 4 or 5 random amps of sust left over, would it be a good idea to throw them in there for weeks 6-10 while I am coming off the dbol?
2. I only have 120i.u's of GH(I know its not enough, but got a good deal and plan on getting more) I was thinking of starting the GH in week 7 that way it would carry me through post cycle. Anyone have a different opinion on how I should use the GH, I do plan on getting more as soon as my funds get replinished. So any suggestions would be helpful
3. How does the timing of the winstrol look? should I move the winstrol to weeks 9-11 and still leave a week before i start my PCT?

[MuGGsy]

dbol dose looks low compared to the rest of the cycle - what are your past cycles ? If you've run dbol before I would personally go higher, then again I don't really respond to dbol at all unless it's 30+ ...

[Jrod]

this is my first time with dbol I figured I would start out low ~25 or 30 mgs a day just to see how I react to it, figured I could move up from there

[crotchrocket226]

dude....everything looks ok, except for the GH.....thats such a waste, if anything i would get another kit or two and start that around week 4 of the test and keep it going for at least 20 weeks. Its up to you though, its a waste IMO......u mentioned something about getting more, you'd be better off doing that.

[crotchrocket226]

oh....and the extra sust....why not use it to extend the test cycle to 12 weeks and dont start pct until week 14 or 15. This way you can also run the winny for a longer amount of time if you have acces to it....like from week 10-14/15. Just some ideas.

[telephone]

3 weeks of winny is as useless as 12iu of gh..i would just go sust deca dbol on this one and save up and run winny and gh on next one..

[decadan]

Originally posted by telephone
3 weeks of winny is as useless as 12iu of gh..i would just go sust deca dbol on this one and save up and run winny and gh on next one..

I agree. Just stick with that.

GH takes about 3 months before you see anything. The higher your normal GH levels are, the longer it will take to see results. And the lower they are, the quicker you will see reults.

I would stick with the Sust, Deca and Dbol like telephone said.

Is there any chance you can up the Sust to 750mg a week and 400mg on the Deca?

Cheers!

[Jrod]

yeah, I understand that I need more GH to make it effective and I plan on getting at least another kit or 2, I was just going on the worst case scenario that I won't be able to get my hands on more for some reason.
As far as the winny goes, you guys dont think that using it for the last 3 weeks would help me solidify my gains?
I guess I'll go ahead and buy another GH kit now and plan on running it for ~16 weeks at least
Also, I didnt see the need to bump up to 750 test and 400 deca because I still grow rather well off of 500/wk, if for some reason I dont feel like I am growing I would bump it up, but I dont see the reason when 500/wk is working
thanks for all the suggestions

[Jrod]

Also, I can get more winny. What is the minimum number of weeks you would recommend running it at the end of my cycle?

[inkman]

Originally posted by Jrod
Also, I can get more winny. What is the minimum number of weeks you would recommend running it at the end of my cycle?

I can see two major things wrong with this cycle. First off run a bulk and cuting cycle seperatly not together like you are doing. Deca, Dbol and test one cycle then run the winnie along with the gh for another cycle.

Dont waste your money on the hgh unless you have enough for 6 months minimum. That takes a long time to use before you see effects. Even then it is a culmitive process that builds slowly in your system. So if for some reason you were not able to get anymore after 3 months you just blew your money for very little if any results

I see alot of folks run bulking drugs with cutting drugs and it really makes no sense cause they almost counteract each other. Sure your going to get some size and hardness doing them together but if you ran them in seperate cyclesl you would get bigger during the bulk phase and ripped to shreds in the cutting phase.. just my 02 ... Ink.

[jcp2]

Originally posted by inkman

I see alot of folks run bulking drugs with cutting drugs and it really makes no sense cause they almost counteract each other. Sure your going to get some size and hardness doing them together but if you ran them in seperate cyclesl you would get bigger during the bulk phase and ripped to shreds in the cutting phase.. just my 02 ... Ink.

I don't really see running winny at the end a problem, or how it counteracts anything, it is not like it is going to stop him from gaining weight or start taking it off. It will not cause any aromitization, but so what, personally i think it isn't the best choice of drugs, and i would probably opt for tren in this situation, but what the hell is a cutting drug, drol is used by competitors leading up to a show and most wouldn't consider that a cutting drug.

[Jrod]

yeah, I was just going to use the winny because I have read of other people using it at the end of the cycle to harden up and solidfy their gains