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  • Man I'm confused...

    I'm a newbie to this and I've read so much information and heard so many different things concerning cycles, pct, etc., that my head is about to explode.

    Someone told me that you don't really need pct if you’re doing short cycles (8-12 weeks) with low doses (1cc-2cc). This is true?

  • #2
    It always depends on what you are taking...how much....and for how long....I sugggest you get to reading up on everything you can find and start asking questions about what you don't understand...research my man...research!!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mr. Shoulders
      It always depends on what you are taking...how much....and for how long....I sugggest you get to reading up on everything you can find and start asking questions about what you don't understand...research my man...research!!!

      I swear it feels like you need a freaking Masters Degree to do this shiot right, lol.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BIKER_GIXXER
        I swear it feels like you need a freaking Masters Degree to do this shiot right, lol.
        Well its not that complicated bro.
        PCT is the most important thing you need to prepare before doing any cycle. you need to know how you gona come off!
        long cycles(12+ weeks) i would recomend hcg nolva
        shorter i recomend only nolva and maybe some clen to keep you going! no rocket science. its basicly trial and error bro, what works for you might not work for me.
        have fun

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gearjunky
          Well its not that complicated bro.
          PCT is the most important thing you need to prepare before doing any cycle. you need to know how you gona come off!
          long cycles(12+ weeks) i would recomend hcg nolva
          shorter i recomend only nolva and maybe some clen to keep you going! no rocket science. its basicly trial and error bro, what works for you might not work for me.
          have fun
          I hear ya.
          I'll just keep it KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid).

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          • #6
            Biker, don't give up it will all gel for you soon and you will be able to create cycles in your dreams. Just keep on researching and learning what each different compound is good at and the proper pct for the compound, ester and cycle length.

            Once you have it worked out the best you can, post ;your proposed cycle and everyone will check it over.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Eating Machine
              Biker, don't give up it will all gel for you soon and you will be able to create cycles in your dreams. Just keep on researching and learning what each different compound is good at and the proper pct for the compound, ester and cycle length.

              Once you have it worked out the best you can, post ;your proposed cycle and everyone will check it over.
              Sounds good, thanks bro.

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              • #8
                i dont know but when i did my first cycle a Sostenon Cycle of 250 a week for 8 weeks and Halo, I didnt use any PCT. I went from 165 to 195. After that I only lost 5 pounds after that. I did feel like shit afterwards, when i would have sex i would cum less for months. So i should have taken it cause till this day when i have sex, my cum comes out less.

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                • #9
                  always run PCt ...you want to recover as fast as posible to keep as much gains as possible

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                  • #10
                    Is doing HCG only advised for longer cycles?

                    Would it help reduce gains lost after cycles more so than just nolva and clomid?

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                    • #11
                      PCT aids the body in getting back on track, by producing testosterone on its own again. The introduction of test, or any other anabolic, or androgen will shut down the bodies naturla production, and the body feeds off what you put in it

                      BB's did very well for yrs without the things we have available to us, they are "realativly new" considering how long the sport of body building has ben around

                      HCG should be used during and after long cycles, where your HPTA will supprressed for long peroids of time, some use it mid cycle when testicular atrophy occurs, and use it again at the end of the cycle, before using clomid and or novla therapy

                      PCT, doesnt stop the muscle mass or gains you have made from going away, they aid in repairing the bodies natural functions that have shut down during the phase of the cycle.

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                      • #12
                        Yes hcg will speed things up.
                        Yes you need pct with anything over 4wks and with any gear other than anvar or primo at low doses (25mg/d and 200mg/wk)

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                        • #13
                          You still need PCT, because relatively low doses of most AAS still cause shut-down of natural test production.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for all the feed back fellas!!

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                            • #15
                              I got some over the counter PCT from my nutritionist. It's some kind of estrogen blocker. I know it's no nolva or clomid, but for a 10wk 2cc cycle, think that would do the trick? Is Trib. Test. best over the counter natural test rebooster?

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