How much halo??

[vitamint]

Well, my summer cycle is fast approaching and I've decided to go with 750 mg Enan for 12 weeks, plus some halo during the last few weeks (I'm a powerlifter).

How do you think I should add in the halo? I was thinking either 25mg/day for the last 3 weeks...........or 20mg a day for the last 4 weeks.

I've only got one cycle under my belt (500 enan, 300 deca for 12 wks).

Also, should the standard 300,100,50 clomid PCT be sufficient?

Thanks.

[advocate]

Are you competing in the summer?

IMO you would do best at 1gm test for 12 wks, 400-500mg deca for wk 1-8 and 25 mg Halo for the last three.

deca will help with your joints, but I'm sure you know that.

12 weeks of test with or without deca calls for hcg as follows;
wk1:10,000 iu divided in 2 doses 150 clomid/d 40 nolv/d
wk2:7,500 iu in 2 150 clomid/40 nolva
wk3:5,000 in 2 100 clomid/ 20 nolva
wk4:2,500 in 2 100/20 clomid nolva
wk5-6: 50/20 clomid nolva

You will crash hard with clomid only - that would be a waste.

good luck!

[the double M]

Originally posted by advocate
Are you competing in the summer?

IMO you would do best at 1gm test for 12 wks, 400-500mg deca for wk 1-8 and 25 mg Halo for the last three.

deca will help with your joints, but I'm sure you know that.

12 weeks of test with or without deca calls for hcg as follows;
wk1:10,000 iu divided in 2 doses 150 clomid/d 40 nolv/d
wk2:7,500 iu in 2 150 clomid/40 nolva
wk3:5,000 in 2 100 clomid/ 20 nolva
wk4:2,500 in 2 100/20 clomid nolva
wk5-6: 50/20 clomid nolva

You will crash hard with clomid only - that would be a waste.

good luck!

no flame buddy, but too much is missing out of your post without backing i t up.

1.) who are you too say to bump the dose of test up to a gram a week?
2.) if you are gonig to recomend a higher dose it would have made more sense if you would have known his previous test doses in cycles.
3.) when adding deca to the cycle, 8 weeks? it will only be kicking in weeks 4-5. run it for another 3 weeks only. sorry bro IMO deca should be run for at least 12 weeks....
4.) why take HCG when the test isn't even reacting yet?
HCG should be run mid cycle.....

[joe bigboy]

with halo i would run it at 20mg a day for no more than 4 weeks

[advocate]

1- A powerlifter who has already made the decision to use halo on his 2nd cycle is clearly looking for something more. 1gm is what he's looking for.
2-He wasn't even going to use deca this cycle, so I suggested he add it to help with the stress he will be putting on his joints, but imo if he stops it at week 8 he will recover faster with pct and the progestronic effects of deca won't act to reduce the effects of the halo.
3-the hcg protocol was written badly by me. week 1 is week 1 post cycle or week 13 and so on.
4- who am I? I'm a guy who did his first cycle in 1984 and am still around to talk about it. You?

[Chadd77]

I’ll be using halo at the end of my cycle (2nd cycle) and I’m only running test at 600mg/week. I think a gram is a little much. I think he would be fine with 500mg-600mg of test.

[Dundee]

Just my .02 here

Why run HCG mid cycle double M? Your coconuts dont need the stimulation they will just be supressed imidiately after last HCG shot when the synthetic AAS kicks them down again. Wait till the end before pct. IMO run the hcg for 10 days 500i.u/day then roll into pct a couple days later.

[Dundee]

vitamint, as for the halo 25mg/day for 4 wks is an ample dosage.

[Racer814]

Originally posted by Dundee
Just my .02 here

Why run HCG mid cycle double M? Your coconuts dont need the stimulation they will just be supressed imidiately after last HCG shot when the synthetic AAS kicks them down again. Wait till the end before pct. IMO run the hcg for 10 days 500i.u/day then roll into pct a couple days later.

purpose of hcg midway through a cycle is to prevent testicular atrophy..yes, they will shut back down again but they will have been stimulated and wont be dormant as long.....i.e. in a 12 week cycle they will be dormant for 2- 5 week stretches instead of a 12 week stretch...

[mcbvr6]

Originally posted by Racer814
purpose of hcg midway through a cycle is to prevent testicular atrophy..yes, they will shut back down again but they will have been stimulated and wont be dormant as long.....i.e. in a 12 week cycle they will be dormant for 2- 5 week stretches instead of a 12 week stretch...

Bingo. It takes several weeks for your testicles to atrophy. Around the time they begin to atrophy (roughly week 7 - 10 depending upon what you are taking) you start a course of HCG. This brings them back roughly to where they started. Then do another course of HCG on roughly the same schedule with your last course immediately preceeding your clomid/nolva. If you try to wait to the end of a long cycle, they will be so severely atrophied that it may take some time and significant doses of HCG to bring them back in time to start PCT.