What gauge for Sust?

[imonboardtoo]

What gauge pin is best for Sust? I have stuck myself before with thin needles for allergy shots (did it for a long time - no prob. self-injecting) but I worry about the gauge for this.

If I go slower can I go bigger gauge? Need vet input here.

[ROCKETW19]

why do you need vet input this is a basic question! i use 25g 1inch in the leg. or you can use 23g 1.5inch for your ass on bigg partical drugs like winny i use 22g. its all up to you but these are good guidelines. good luck

[imonboardtoo]

thanks. haven't seen any references to this before. and wanna be sure the advice is from someone who's tried different gauges.

[ROCKETW19]

no problem bro there is a book called anabolics 2004 it has everything you need in there great book IMO. is this your first cycle?

[imonboardtoo]

thanks, rocket. yes, first.

[ROCKETW19]

whats your cycle gonna look like? sust needs to be injected EOD cuzz of the fast acting test. eventhough on your first cycle you can just look at test and blow up.i would run test enat. at 500mgs for 10-12 weeks

[bigpetefox]

25g 1" for just about any oil-based, 23s are cool.. 22g for water-based, anything bigger (21, 20, 18) you're askin' for lots of pain..

Test enanthate 500mg per week is good for a first run, that'll be my second.. ;)

[imonboardtoo]

i got some advice from guys i trust on this site. said a good begnner cycle was Sust. - 250 (up to 500 but they said 250 ought to be ok) every 7 days for 12 weeks. what u think?

[ROCKETW19]

250mgs of sust per week hell no at least 500mgs. like i said though this being your first cycle anything will work. but you only get you first cycle once. make it good. you know about the PCT correct?

[imonboardtoo]

yeah. thinking about upping to 500 for weeks 5, 6 & 7. For PCT: nolvadex last few weeks of cycle, right?

[hitmansb]

I use 22g 1.5" for glute shots for everything, just for ease of use. I use 25g 1" for quad shots without any problems for oils.

Run your sustanon at 500mg/week, injecting on Mondays and Thursdays. I'm an advocate at using lower doses of test usually (single esters), but with Sustanon you really do need more to get the same results (and need to shoot it 2x/week so you keep test levels more even)


For PCT, you do not run Nolva for last few weeks of cycle (unless you're doing so to combat gyno)

PCT starts AFTER your cycle ends. If I were you, I'd get myself some more Sustanon, some HCG, and some Clomid as well and do the following:

Weeks 1-10 500mg Sustanon
Week 11-13 HCG 500mg EOD
Week 14 Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 100mg/day
Week 15 Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 50mg/day
Week 16 Nolvadex 20mg/day, Clomid 25mg/day

Now, you may look at this and think "That guy is f'n crazy...no way am I gonna spend for all that extra stuff". Trust me when I tell you that it's worth it. I did proper PCT for the first time after my last cycle, and I could not believe just how much of my gains I kept (think 80%!!!) I look back on all the cycles I ran without doing a full and proper PCT, and I wonder how big I'd be right now if I'd done it all along.

[imonboardtoo]

Hitman, thanks for taking the time to put this down. I'll do it cuz I really want to keep my gains. Thanks again, man.

[hitmansb]

You're welcome...that's what we're here for: to pass on the knowledge we've gained so that we can spare others from making the same mistakes we did earlier on in our BBing lives.;)

[Ashop]

What gauge pin is best for Sust? I have stuck myself before with thin needles for allergy shots (did it for a long time - no prob. self-injecting) but I worry about the gauge for this.

If I go slower can I go bigger gauge? Need vet input here.

23-25g will work.

[CrankinSteiN]

23-25g will work.

Wow.... Blast from the past thread... lol

Good advice given tho