Fina/Tren Sides

[Ratchet]

I was wondering how many of you that have cycled tren / fina did so with out taking Test at the same time. If so, did you have any problems with libido and or limp biscuit syndrome, ie no fun for willie.

If you did add Test, how much.

Thanks

[trapattack]

done both
no limp dick probs without the test and libido was good.
the main side i have from fina is over 75mg ed i get pretty
irritable and longer than 8wks i crash prettty hard

[jyzza]

I always use Test as a base for my cycles......when using Fina ed or eod injections it's very simple to just throw in some Prop in the mix......

[Ratchet]

So, jyzza you just throw somd test prop into the mix and take both eod? Did I get that right?

I was thinking of doseing of

Tren 75mg eod
Test Prop 175mg eod

Thoughts ?

[teekahty]

if your worried about limpness in any cycle throw in proviron , Trust me . makes you hard everywhere . LOL

[skinnypuppy]

at 100mg a day I got a little high BP... and hard as a rock!

[Ratchet]

skinnypuppy, what all did you run with it. Anything besides the tren.

Also I wanted to know if anyone has had any problems with tren related gyno. I know its very uncomon. If I understand correctly the gyno from tren is progesterone related not estetgen related as such it requires more agressive control measures should it rear its head, meaning that nolva is of no use.

[prolangtum]

actually nolva is of use. Progesterone is actually a estrogen antagonist. Estrogen is needed to cause gyno through normal means. Have you ever heard of people getting gyno from GH? It is because of high levels of IGF-1 which can cause gyno. Tren is progesterenic, and progesterone substantially raises IGF-1. This is a double edge sword. IGF-1 can cause muscle growth and fat loss, but can also cause gyno. To lower IGF-1 what is the simplest means while protecting yourself from other aromatzing compounds such as testerone? ....................Nolvadex.

[granby140]

the dick got hard just never got fully erect and had no sex drive what so ever. The crash was the worst part of it tho. I seemed to feel like a little girl and very emotional.

[KIller Quads81]

I ran 100mg/day of tren w/ 125mg/day of enanthate and 25mg/day of prop. My sex drive was through the roof, I leaned out alot w/o dieting and my streangth went up a bit. Early on I had some high blood preasure at night, but that subsided. The main thing was mood swings, they were like clockwork throughout the day.

[skinnypuppy]

600MG CYP A WEEK... 100MG EQ EOD... 30MG BTG ANAVAR A DAY

[WhiteBoy]

75mg tren Ed, 100mg of prop EOD seems to work well

[spidey]

I have done two fina/test prop cycles. Made good gains on both. The first cycle I ran fina at 50 mg ed alone for about 3 weeks and then added in 50 mg ed test prop. During that first three weeks of fina alone, I gained 18 lbs and felt 10 ft tall and bulletproof. The only sides were night sweats, insomnia and muscle tightness/cramps. After I added the test, my gains actually slowed to a trickle and I developed a bad case of acne. My sex drive went ballistic with the added test. LOL, even old ugly chics were looking good to me.