QV enathate = serious pain!!!!

[IAMHUGE]

Ok, maybe I am a pussy, like Gear Tripper says, but I just did my first shot last night of QV test enathate 009 (50ml), and I am limping around. I put 1cc in my right quad...kind of high up, almost to my hip, and holly shit. I feel like I got hit by a golf ball hit by Tiger woods like ten feet away.

I just changed up my test. I was on Upjhon Cyp, and thatt stuff was like silk. I put it everywhere without any pain at all. I have had some painfull stuff before, like Denkalls cypiotest 250, and this is almost as bad. I don't know how I am gonna handle this....it sucks. I guess it is part of the game. I shot it with the last of my QV decca 300. That decca hurts a little bit too, so it was probally a bad combo. I am also running tren too. I think I will shoot it with the tren from now on, maybe that will help minamize the pain a little.

In short, does any one have any ideas on how to minamize the pain of this test. I have read a little about refilltering and baking it. But I know nothing about how to go about that process.

Thanks in advance to all those who respond.

IAH

[IAMHUGE]

good info, I may PM U for more help. Thank you.

[Gods Son]

no pain here

[Doom]

I told ya the 50ml's were a nightmare
great info on Intims part though

[shw]

i had that happen to me with my first shot of the qv enanthate. after that i started to put it in my glutes, and didnt have any pain. now i can put it anywhere, with minimal pain, if any. but i still get the knots those go away though.

imo you will get used to it, and not even feel much or any pain after a while.

[IAMHUGE]

Thanks for all your help. It was just such a shock after being on painless test for so long. I am gonna try that method with the BA water. I am backing down my test dose to 5oomg a week, so I am only shooting 1cc twice a week. My next shot is on Sunday, and I will post my results.

We all should be thankfull to have a forum like this. Every question I have ever had has been answered by knowledgable people. I would be lost without this place.

IAH

[psyko1]

i heard of the qv pain but couldn't the fact that you shot by the hip have something to do with it too? i'm using the same and have never felt any pain. they're 10ml vials though.

[GearTripper]

after some research... i think it has to do specifically with the 50ml viles... dunno why that would matter though. on a personal note, when i shoot high, near the hip... on left, it's common to get sore, but my right never has any problems - go figure.

[ROCKETW19]

i hit my leg about 8 inches down fron the hip with QV enan never any problems but the denkal cyp. is a lil different it seems to leave a knot for about a day but no crazy pain! 10ml bottles also.

[Doom]

common rule of thumb, best place to inject from the hip is by place your thumb on it, and where your middle finger drops is the best place to fill er up

You can also go lower twowards the tear drop area, lot of veins down there though be extra careful

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by INTIMID8OR3
Your not a pussy ,QV is well known that problem ........


2 Techniques For Reducing Injection Pain

Buy some Sesame, Soybean, Safflower (whatever kind of
oil you like) oil from the store. Take one of your old
10ml bottles (we all keep'em around) and sterilize it
using 91% isopropyl alcohol or 99% if you can find
it... Meijer carries 99%. Pull the aluminum seal off
the bottle and throw it away and pull the stopper out
(keep it). Sterilize a small bowl using the alcohol
and then put enough alcohol in the bowl so that you
can immerse the bottle and stopper in it... leave it
sit for at least 15 minutes. Take out the bottle and
rubber stopper and let them air dry. Once the bottle
is dry, fill it with sesame oil... you can use a
filtered syringe if you want but I've never found that
necessary, especially if you use a syringe to just
take the oil off the top of the bottle. Now place the
bottle in the good ol' microwave and nuke it for 2
minutes on high. Leave it sit until it cools and then
place the rubber stopper back in the bottle.

Next time you go to inject, for each cc of gear you
withdraw in to the syringe, withdraw 1/2cc of regular
oil. That's a good starting point and should do the
trick for ya... if not, increase 1/4cc until you're
comfortable. If you have a severe reaction to BA, you
may need to go cc for cc.


There's also another trick concerning BA. If you have
some bacteriostatic water or sterile water sittin'
around try this.

If you're shooting 2cc's of an oil injectable,
withdraw your 2cc of whatever oil inject you're using
and then withdraw 1cc of the water. Put that in the
fridge and let it sit overnight. Next day, tilt the
needle up and shoot out the water. This removes much
BA because BA is more attracted to water than it is
oil! Might wanna try that also.

I love the water trick and B12 works just as good but I don't recommend reusing a vial. New factory-sterilized vials are available for as little as 2 dollars for the big ones. Whatman filters are about 5 bucks. Add a buck for a syringe and needles with 2ml BA you can easily make 100ml of sterile oil. For less then ten bucks.

What INTIMID8OR3 posted will do an excellent job of sterilizing the vial and oil. But unless you have a clean room you are still going to get some dust in there. Most absesses are caused be some kind of contaminated particulate (usually from the skin). While you might get away with this forever you’re probably not going to. It really is imperative that you filter anything that you plan to inject unless you are 100% sure of it.

[need2lift]

I have batch 009 of the 50ml QV enanathate myself, and I can verify that it does have a tendancy to hurt. I shot a little too high up on my left quad last week, and was limping for 3-4 days. Also had a reaction to the BA which caused my quad to get red and blotchy, but some benadryl lotion took care of that. Glute shots are normally pain free though.

Good advice on the procedure to cut it with oil INTIMID8OR3.

Thanks

[K409G]

I have used the qv enth. my last 3 cycles and I always get pain. Its the 10 ml too. Its not too much to handle and I am used to it now, but I have definately had a couple nights where I cant sleep on my back cause of the pain in my ass cheeks.

[Miller893]

when when i was running this i got really bad pain at first but then i would soak the viel in boiling hot water for about five mins before i shot it and i had no pain after that

[audiowaves252]

qv enanthate has been 100% painless for me