1-test cypionate

[WEIGHT78]

1-Testosterone a much more powerfull hormone than primo. looking at its basic properties we can point out a few obviouse traits. For starters as a 5-alpha reduced form of boldenone, 1-test is unable to undergo 5-alpha reduction in the body.its activity is much more along the lines of a balanced anabolic than a androgenic, its anabolic potency is quite profound. the standerd rat essay found it to be more active than boldenone, nandrolone, dihydrtest, primo even testosterone itself. 1-test is one of the most potent naturally occuring steroids to be isolated. only the synthetics with their extended half lives and biological activities, begin to exceed 1-test.
1-test is also uncapable of converting to estrogen. 1-test users report very lean gains. But can have side effects like that of aromitaze inhibitors. This makes it almost a must to stack it with another compound such as testosterone.
The main contraversy is that 1-test is being sold legally at many health food stores. Not as a controlled drug.
1-test is not orally biovalable so a topical mix or injectable will bring the best gains.

[al the chemist]

very informative weight and pigmeat thanks

[acuman]

fuck you assholes - pigdick and weightless. First of all, 1-test sold in stores is an oral formula because it is 17-a, which helps it avoid fast deactivation in the liver. So what do you mean when you say that it is not orally bioavailable?

Are you saying it is not absorbed by the intestines? Why would companies sell a product to take orally, if it isn't "orally bioavailabe"?

Second, I'm not trying to fuck anybody up. IF someone wants to take a weaker 1-test instead of the "real" thing of higher potency, than so be it. So fuck you on that point.

Here's an example of every ad out there for the stuff:

1-Testesterone, used in Higher Power 1-Test Ether, is almost identical in chemical structure and performance to Primobolan! 17-Hydroxy-ECMM also readily converts to a potent anabolic hormone which has been shown by the pharmaceutical company Searle to be 700% more anabolic than testosterone.(1) This could make 1-Testesterone one of the most anabolic compounds ever discovered! Due to the unique chemical make up of 17-Hydroxy-ECMM it does not aromatize! This means no DHT derived side effects (i.e. no conversion to estrogen, no hair loss, no gynecomastia, and essentially zero water retention and acne). 1-Testesterone has just eliminated the need to use another side-effect prone steroid or prohormone again.

This all sounds good. And hell, if one can make gains on it, good!! I never said the shit didn't work. But it is NOT as strong as test cyp, d-bol, or other steroids.

Third:
About two years ago, Patrick Arnold contributed yet another amazing discovery to the legal pro-drug market with 1-androstenedione; a compound that is converted into something called 1-testosterone. 1-testosterone is a chemical that is 700% more anabolic than "normal testosterone" is in rat levator ani muscle. This doesn't mean it is 700% more anabolic in humans as a host of steroids that are "significantly more anabolic" than testosterone is in rats and other rodents but are complete flops when people have tried them. 1-androstenedione did have some unpleasant side effects, causing stomach pains and urethral burning in many users. Enter Mr. Arnold's improved version, 1-androstenediol (1-AD), which is probably intrinsically active and seems to impart about 40%-60% of the anabolic effect of testosterone.

1-testosterone is an interesting compound that has a double bond in the same position that methenolone (Primobolan) does. In fact, 1-testosterone looks an awful lot like a demethylated version of methenolone, a fact not lost upon Bill Roberts. Bill decided that since 1-testosterone is not on the DEA's controlled substance list and is naturally occurring, why waste time with a pro-drug of it (1-AD)? Why not just sell 1-testosterone itself? Indeed, that is exactly what Bill Roberts did. Most users report that 1-testosterone causes an effect somewhat between that of trenbolone and methenolone, which makes a lot of sense if you look at the chemistry and stoichiometry of 1-testosterone. 1-testosterone is clearly the most inherently potent of the legal pro-drugs we have seen to date.

Note: As it says above, people are not rats. Do either of you two fucks understand research studies, including methodologies, interpreting data, etc. Chemical structure is one thing, how it will work in the body is another. Anyway, just for the record, you two are probably big, been working out a long time, and know important real world shit. You love 1-test? go home and jerk off to it. I'll be dreaming of cyp.



Regardless of whether we agree on the prohormone issue, the fact is that 1-test, as I said before, is not d-bol, and it sure aint test cyp.

I wan't going to fuck Raf up, and unless you got a chemistry background, you'll never convince me of the 1-test hormone issue. Somebody does have a PhD on this site - Spidey. So what he says, I'll believe. I considered calling a PhD biochemist I know, just to follow up on this, but what's the point.





The problem with taking orals is that you do not get 100% of what you swallowed in the bloodstream, as opposed to injecting.

[Skyefire]

Only the methylated verson has any oral bioavailable. this stuff also works well and is EXTRAEMLY potent, 10 to 30mg ed is all you need (or can stand to take.) its also heavy on the sides. All other forms of 1-test have little to no oral use. it eather must be used transdermally (1-test base) or injected (1-test cyp). these are the poor relations of M1T however, as the effective dosage is 10 to 40 time greater then the oral. BTW the oral is very toxic, as bad as a-bombs maybe.

It really isn't necessary to call them assholes guy. It only further complactes the comunications problem. your talking about M1T when their talking about 1-test itself, ether with an ester or not. Of course there is going to be disagreement.

this thread I told about my trial with M1T.
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...t=M1T+shutdown

[pigmeat]

Easy big guy! You said it was a prohormone, and I said it wasnt! No need to get your panties in a knot! Regardless of how well it works, it still isnt a prohormone!

[al the chemist]

yea acuman chill out theres no need to start cursing people out...

[sana]

Originally posted by acuman
[B]fuck you assholes - pigdick and weightless.

there is no flaming on this board. this is your first and only warning.

[Power Rabbit]

Originally posted by al the chemist
what dose did you run it at and the length...did you run it by itself or stacked?

800mg a week, 10 weeks

stacked with test

[Power Rabbit]

oh ya...and i jabbed eod cause though it has a cyp ester on it, I keep hearing that 1test cyp acts more like prop...and i didnt wanna take chances with some wierd half life i wasnt expecting....so until i see a halflife for it that i believe, id reccomend jab it eod to be safe...

its helpful anyway to jab often cause 800mg a week is a whole lotta cc's in one jab when your concentration is 200mg/ml