week 4 up 15 lbs ! not bad ...

[the_inkslinger]

Whats up bros..

I am currently on week for of sus.. cyctahoh 250's taken ETD..
I hopped onthe scale tonight and I am up 15 lbs. I will be switching to Test Enat after next week.. also incorporating some deca.. then winny and anavar.. keep you posted.

I have a bunch of little pimples on my back, but i think it was from the letro.. can liquid letro cause that ? ...the night after i took it i woke up with them.. i have cut back a lil on it cause it dried me out big time..i woke up all parch..needing water.. just felt weird..
anyone have that happen ?

p.s. in the beginning of week 3 .. I sliced my thumb open and needed stiches so i took it very light that week... it was onthe under side right near the damn bend...sucked.. all better now..super sets that week... ..

[Jrod]

congrats on the weight gain! its a greta feeling getting on the scale and seeing it move up so much further than it did before. i am about to start week 4 of my cycle and I was up 15 punds after about 2 1/2 weeks thanks to the dbol, awesome feeling!

[Skyefire]

Glad to hear that things are going good. Unless your cycle is very long its too late to add the deca. Deca takes much longer then test e to build up so by the time it really kicks in you’ll probably be done. I don’t see a big problem changing over to the test e at all. Your levels will fluctuate some though.

You just learned what I found out my first cycle, Letrozole is WAY too strong for some of us. It dried me out too, even without the fina. I don’t even run it anymore unless I am taking something that I know will bloat me and even then I only take a .75mg dose of it (I will be running it when I try the drol). Given what you posted I would drop the letro all together. If you want insurance against gyno or to keep the bloat down I would run nolvadex 20mg EOD.

[the_inkslinger]

Damn that is what I Was worried about with the Deca... this pisses me off man.. I havnt been on anything in over a year.. endeed up getting bunk stuff 2 times! ANDD...now.. I cant add much to my sus/enat cycle... Hmm what if i stacked prop with it ? even tho its test too... and then added the winny in like 2 weeks ? what else can be mixed into the mix to get that added edge ? thanks all

as far as the letro goes.. yeah I t hink it was a bit too strong for me... I cut the dosage back and it was still a bit much... if i notice bad bloat after my switch then ill use it at an even lower dose..

[Skyefire]

Well how long to you have left? Adding things to a cycle is easy. Its the taking out once you put it in that is imposible. Say you have 10 weeks left then I would try this: add Dbol for the next 6 weeks then swich to fina for the next 4 then profina for another 2 weeks. or you can use winny instead during the last 6weeks of your cycle.

Remeber that more is not always better. If your seeing great results now there might not be a whole lot of reasont ot add anything to this at all. Maybe just some fina or winny at the end to harden up.

BTW, I would still drop the letro. Unless your running the dbol or something like that. Nolvadex is only about $25 at the cheapest places so there isn't a whole lot of reason not to use it.

[Choke03]

Should have started your Deca same time as your Sust. It is very important to have your whole scheme layed out with all supplies on hand before you start.

[the_inkslinger]

Choke: I did have everything.. but found out my primo and deca was bunk..so that got returned.. the sust and enat I got from someone else and those are fine. Now I am looking for something more faster acting to get that little bit extra out of the cycle.. I waited almost 2 yrs to cycle up again..i was prepared, didnt think the stuff was bunk until a friend pointed out some minor flaws..got my moneyback but still..
kinda pissed that it got all messed up.. I will probably go with winny.. cant get fina or super fina

Sky: I guess I will drop the letro then.. I can get nola but its 150 for 100 pills. maybe ill go with liquid goods.. thanks for the replies

[Choke03]

That is some bad luck bro, sorry that happened. I'll be watching to see how you do with adding the winnie.

[Masa]

nice ... gl with the cutting cycle..get some be4 after pics

[the_inkslinger]

will do.. I am in week for i might run it about 10 weeks longer.. maybe a likl more..since its been a long ass time since iwas on... and then ill stay off another 1+ years.. like to hit it long..then stay off double time at least....

as far as the bad luck goes.. shit yeah man.. but i tell yeah.. im fairly pleased with what i am doing now.. my strength isnt to the point where i was last time.. but i am coming back from 2 pretty major set backs in injury... my elbow is holding up nicely on just test.. and each week i am going up about 10 lbs in weight..but i dont want tp ush it tooooo much... it only takes one pop and that elbow is screwed again..im really pleased with my back..i jave been doing very light leg and back routines..high reps... all is good thus far... keep you bros posted

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by the_inkslinger
Choke: I did have everything.. but found out my primo and deca was bunk..so that got returned.. the sust and enat I got from someone else and those are fine. Now I am looking for something more faster acting to get that little bit extra out of the cycle.. I waited almost 2 yrs to cycle up again..i was prepared, didnt think the stuff was bunk until a friend pointed out some minor flaws..got my moneyback but still..
kinda pissed that it got all messed up.. I will probably go with winny.. cant get fina or super fina

Sky: I guess I will drop the letro then.. I can get nola but its 150 for 100 pills. maybe ill go with liquid goods.. thanks for the replies

get the liquid. $25 for 50ml @20mg/ml you just can't get the pills that cheap unless your ording in bulk.

Winny is nice for a lot of people but if you have old injories then I would stay away from it. winny is second rate to fina IMO anyway. Just buy a couple of carts and make it yourself. trust me its easy and works great.

[GearTripper]

wait, so did you find out the stuff was "bunk" prior to starting your cycle or after you started? if it was after, then i can sympathize.. if it was prior, why didn't you wait til you got everything. i would also drop the Let. you seem to be getting great gains on what you're taking, so just stick with that... i would assume you want to minimize bloat since you were on the let. to begin with... so avoid dbol or any form thereof. forget primo, not needed and waste of money in your situation IMO. winny might be a good choice for about 6 weeks near the end. also, nolvadex is cheap and works well for me at around 20mg.

[the_inkslinger]

yeah man.. AFTER the fact.. i had sus..enat..primo and deca.. (bunk) anavar (btg) and now im thinking bout winny... I really thought my primo was legit.. thought wrong... and it wasnt til i found out that was bunk til i questioned the deca cause it came from the same dude... bunk too... damn good fakes..either way they both got returned and i got my money back..the only thing he had was duratest and i didnt wanna risk that... i tried something different this time with my work out..first 2 weeks i worked out 1 on 1 off...then the 2nd week 2 on 1 off... then 2 on 2 off..then 3 on 1 off..and doing that now.... trying differen things since i dont got more gear right now..

about the injury.. my elbow was bad for a year.. but surprising i am able to do certain exercises heavy.. cant do chest with a straight bar tho... =\

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by the_inkslinger
yeah man.. AFTER the fact.. i had sus..enat..primo and deca.. (bunk) anavar (btg) and now im thinking bout winny... I really thought my primo was legit.. thought wrong... and it wasnt til i found out that was bunk til i questioned the deca cause it came from the same dude... bunk too... damn good fakes..either way they both got returned and i got my money back..the only thing he had was duratest and i didnt wanna risk that... i tried something different this time with my work out..first 2 weeks i worked out 1 on 1 off...then the 2nd week 2 on 1 off... then 2 on 2 off..then 3 on 1 off..and doing that now.... trying differen things since i dont got more gear right now..

about the injury.. my elbow was bad for a year.. but surprising i am able to do certain exercises heavy.. cant do chest with a straight bar tho... =\

given that I would stay away from the winny.

[the_inkslinger]

yea..im thinking heavy cardio and anavar.. not sure what else I can throw in there to stay hard cept prop.. but then ill be stacking test on test