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  • Info on Long R IGF 3 (GFL)

    Originally by Dave Palumbo

    Wanted to see what you guys think of this.

    IGF-1, as the name implies, is an extremely anabolic hormone that has insulin-like actions (i.e. it shuttles nutrients, specifically amino acids and glucose, into the muscle cells where they can be synthesized into new muscle tissue.) When bodybuilders take growth hormone injections, they are not injecting a pure growth stimulus - they are taking a stimululating or releasing factor. It is for this reason that high dosing of GH is not necessarily going to result in more growth. Growth is limited by the amount of IGF-1 the liver can produce in response to any given dosage of GH. IGF-1 has been synthetically synthesized (using similar technology as that used to make GH) to circumvent the shortcomings that are associated with GH-mediated IGF-1 production in the liver. If we try to maxamize the output of IGF-1 in order to further increase muscle mass, it becomes much easier to just administer IGF-1 directly. In persuit of this goal, scientists began to study the pysiology and pharmacology of the hormone IGF-1. What they found was that IGF-1 circulates in the bloodstream (99 percent) bound to specific binding proteins. It is the remaining unbound or free (1 percent) of the IGF-1 that causes the anticipated muscle cell hyperplasia. (The bound 99 percent is essentially wasted).In order to combat this phenomenon of the binding proteins "stealing" our precious IGF-1, scientists have chemically altered the original IGF-1 molecule and have added chemically bound side chains, thus creating a new hormone known as LONG R3 IGF-1. (The long R3 refers to the three long side chains that have been added to the original molecule). These large, space-occupying, side chains are attached to the IGF-1 molecule to prevent these blood born binding proteins from "snatching" up and inactivating the IGF-1. For the last several years, most bodybuilders who were privy enough to get their hands on synthetically produced IGF-1 have been using the Long R3 IGF-1 variety thinking it will last longer in your body (12 hours opposed to 20 minutes). Also, that more of it will be available (unbound) to help build and repair muscle. The theory is essentially correct, however, what bodybuilders started noticing after extended usage of Long R3 IGF-1 was that it stopped working as effectively after about 4 weeks.
    I began to keep notes and I worked out a system by which bodybuilders would inject Long R3 IGF-1 [about 10-20 mcg] within 15 mins following a workout so the IGF-1 could circulate and locate these newly produced IGF-1 receptors on the damaged muscle cell membranes. (These new receptors appear as a direct result of damage induced by intense weight training and muscular trauma). It is at these damaged cells that the body increases the number of IGF-1 recpetors so it can signal where the muscle repairs must be performed. (This is why muscle cells grow, preferentially, and not bone tissue or internal organs, as rumoured).
    However, as the dosage of IGF-1 increases above the suggested 60mcg or higher per day, the IGF-1 muscle cell receptors become saturated and now all this excess IGF-1 goes straight to the highest naturally occuring concentration of IGF-1 receptors - The extremisties (i.e feet, hands and facial bones). Thereby, side effects such as shoe and hand size increases and facial bone thickening can occur. Additionally, high Long R3 IGF-1 dosing will lead to decreases in muscle cell IGF-1 receptors, thus diminishing the results seen with Long R3 IGF-1 usage over time. In summation, empiracal evidence has shown that 10-20mcg per day of Long R3 IGF-1 causes significant muscle cell hyperplasia and will continue to do so extremely effectively for approximately 30 days.
    Even with conservative amounts of Long R3 IGF-1, the hormone still stops functioning after a perios of time. Therefore, I usually suggest that bodybuilders take a two to four week "holiday" off the Long R3 IGF-1 after every 30 day course of administration.

  • #2
    More good info-

    IGF-1 FACT SHEET
    1--
    LongR3 is the systemic form of IGF-1 as it has a chain added to it to prevent it from being uptaken by the receptor and or excreted quickly as rIGF-1 would be
    the in vivo life of LongR3 in animals is approximately 12-18 hours
    rIGF-1 the unadulterated recombinant form of the compound has an in vivo duration on the order of 8-20minutes and thusly is not effective to any real degree systemically but will exert a site specific response that is basically absent in the administration of LongR3 to animals

    2--
    IGF-1 exerts its main effect through increased insulin sensitivity and protein synthesis. This produces LBM gains with usually a concommitant reduction in bodyfat as these facets cause an enhanced nutrient partitioning effect
    obviously the actual outcome will be determioned by the diet; the calorie intake and macronutrient ratio consumed by the animal

    3--
    IGF-1 is supplied in BA for increased stability and ease of storage and use. It will then not degrade at room temperature although fridge storage is advid to be safe. It can easily be administered to an animal via injection. IM injection is recommended and to ensure that the active IGF-1 is completely pushed through the pin it is optimal to first load the syringe with 20-50units of Bacteriostatic water and then draw the desired dose of the IGF-1 that is suspended in BA.

    4--
    At a 1mg/ml concentration each unit on an insulin syringe is 10mcg IGF-1
    30 or 50 unit slin pins are most accurate to note as they have 1 tick = 1 unit and 100U slin pins have 1 tick to 2 units.

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    • #3
      IMO (for what's that's worth), I believe excessively high protein consumption and IGF results go hand in hand.

      For me it was 3x LBM! About 600grams a day.

      I believe that the bare minimum is 2.5x per day with 3x better. I haven't taken it higher myself (but maybe someone has).

      Choke

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      • #4
        Good reads. I will keep everyone updated in my journal about how im doing with the igf-1 so make sure to check it out. Choke, which would be better to store the igf-1 in, the fridge or the freezer? I keep mine in the freezer but it says fridge up above. Also, what do you think about slin use along with IGF-1? Seems to me that you could run low doses of slin because of the incresed sensativity that igf-1 causes. Thanks for any info bro.

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        • #5
          Low doses of slin is awesome for volume in muscles, the pumps are insane. The IGF does an incredible job of rescensitizing your insulin receptors.
          MOST IMPORTANT to note that its just like starting slin for the first time, baby steps. Sides will creep up on you much easier while on IGF.

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          • #6
            I have been as high as 50iu slin post work out so I guess I wont go close to that dose. I will start again at 10 iu.

            Also, store the GFL in the fridge or freezer?

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            • #7
              Your going to rip thru quick so Fridge is sufficient. I would say freezer is best but the Frozen rubber stopper is a pain in the ass to get the slin pin thru. I actually store in the freezer and pop the top off and just put the pin in the vial and draw. When done I just put the rubber back in.

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              • #8
                Be Sure to keep it upright. The BA will eat into the rubber stopper if you let it and you will loose product. Must stay UPRIGHT !!!!

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                • #9
                  I will just throw it in the fridge. I keep it upright so no prob there. Thanks for all the info bro.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Choke03
                    Low doses of slin is awesome for volume in muscles, the pumps are insane. The IGF does an incredible job of rescensitizing your insulin receptors.
                    MOST IMPORTANT to note that its just like starting slin for the first time, baby steps. Sides will creep up on you much easier while on IGF.
                    The only time I've gone hypo is after doing gfl then slin. Gfl will make you much more insulin sensitive. Keep the skittles nearby!

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