Tren or Winny Depot

[Carl P]

I compete in a non-tested strength sport that requires me to stay at a certain weight. I am 3-4 pounds under weight right now so I can not afford to gain very much, as you can see. I need a jump in strength and would like to do it in less than 3 weeks. Halo would be perfect for this senario but I can't get any. My two choices are Tren or Winstrol Depot (can't find anavar either). I know that diet is important and believe me, I have that covered. What I need to know is in the next 3 weeks which one would give me the greatest increase in strength with the smallest (very small) increase in size.
I know that most WANT the size but if you could give this "black sheep" some advice I'd appreciate it!!!!

[Carl P]

I forgot to add that I am 187lbs, 5'10" at around 15% body fat. Does that change anyones answer?

[Stonecold54]

Re: Tren or Winny Depot

Originally posted by Carl P
I compete in a non-tested strength sport that requires me to stay at a certain weight. I am 3-4 pounds under weight right now so I can not afford to gain very much, as you can see. I need a jump in strength and would like to do it in less than 3 weeks. Halo would be perfect for this senario but I can't get any. My two choices are Tren or Winstrol Depot (can't find anavar either). I know that diet is important and believe me, I have that covered. What I need to know is in the next 3 weeks which one would give me the greatest increase in strength with the smallest (very small) increase in size.
I know that most WANT the size but if you could give this "black sheep" some advice I'd appreciate it!!!!

from my experience I would use tren. I was trying to bulk on tren and it was still stripping weight off my body. so be careful if you don't want to drop more weight. but I think tren would be the way to go from what I experienced.

[Skyefire]

Re: Re: Tren or Winny Depot

Originally posted by stonecold54
from my experience I would use tren. I was trying to bulk on tren and it was still stripping weight off my body. so be careful if you don't want to drop more weight. but I think tren would be the way to go from what I experienced.

What he said. You didn't give cycle exp but 50mg ed is a good starting point for tren.

[Stonecold54]

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Originally posted by Skyefire
What he said. You didn't give cycle exp but 50mg ed is a good starting point for tren.

yeah I forgot to add the dosage. I used 75 and it was way to much. 50ed is fine. I was thinking of even lower for my next run with tren if i ever do it again. that is how powerful it is.

[hitmansb]

Tren...it will give you the strength you desire while leaning you out...and is easier on the joints than Winny.

[Carl P]

I also throw. Things like shot put and a heavy weight for height. So, say I go with the tren. How long until I see the strength gains or improvements in my distances.
I know it is different for most people but I would like to get a relative idea for the gains that I will get on 50mg/eod in 2-3 weeks. I have not used tren before(to answer the exp ?'s). The advice you guys have given so far is great. PLEASE keep it coming. My clock is ticking :megaphone

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by Carl P
I also throw. Things like shot put and a heavy weight for height. So, say I go with the tren. How long until I see the strength gains or improvements in my distances.
I know it is different for most people but I would like to get a relative idea for the gains that I will get on 50mg/eod in 2-3 weeks. I have not used tren before(to answer the exp ?'s). The advice you guys have given so far is great. PLEASE keep it coming. My clock is ticking :megaphone

That was 50 ever day or 100 EOD if you perfer that. but taking 50mg ed is easy and you can use a slin pin if you do it that way. Tren kicks in pretty fast you should notice things in the first two weeks. Next time plan ahead farther and try something like EQ and Deca cycle for throwing. Fina gives mad strength gains and can easily ot pace your joints ability to keep up. be sure and run glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM with the fina.

BTW: I your not running right? the reason I ask is fina can be a little hard on the lungs. Also keep the fina dick in mind and use percautions

[Carl P]

No I'm not running! As far as the fina dick; Can it be avoided by doing only a short cycle or is it a craps shoot. Some people get it, some don't?

The EQ and Deca stack is popular with my larger bretheren but for me it would put on too much size. I do agree with you on the benefits of it though. Sucks to be me some times...

[Chadd77]

Originally posted by Carl P
As far as the fina dick; Can it be avoided by doing only a short cycle or is it a craps shoot. Some people get it, some don't?

You could add prop to the cycle. 100mg eod. You shouldn't gain to much weight from the prop if your diet is in check. That would help with the fina dick.

[Skyefire]

I'd get ahold of some Proviron just in case. The problem with adding test to your cycle is that even prop can make you gain a few pounds in water, pounds that you don't have. Proviron would cure the fina dick and help keep you lean a little. Also have nolvadex on hand and for PCT. I would run the fina at least 6 weeks to get full benifts from it.

[hitmansb]

Good call on the proviron....I'd also have some Cialis on hand as a 'just in case'. Have all the bases covered that way.