Supra Primo - IM or Oral?

[skwood]

My friend just started on Supra's Primo. His first and only injection was in the quad which proceeded to swell up and led to a two night hospital stay. (for a spider bite of course)

I had been trying to tell him to drink it since it is the acetate version but he felt it would be less effective...

3 questions:
- can you shoot primobolan acetate IM or should it just be used orally?
- If orally, does it have any impact on its effectiveness?
- what is the optimal dosage and frequency?

[BigWilly]

GO WITH ORAL !!!

Inject it and you will regret it, big time. I got sick as hell and was crippled for a week!

Took it orally and got great results and never got sick again.

I took 100mg/eod to start and bumped up to 100mg/ed. Depends on who you are I guess. 100mg/eod might be enough.

As far as effectiveness, I would say you loose maybe 15% as compared to IM. But that's JMO.

[Skyefire]

Well it is far less efective. Acetate has a bad oral absorbsion rate compared to the 17a types. But if it is making yoiu sick injecting it then then I wouldn't take it at all. Given that its primo it is probably ether fake or has been tampered with and is now dirty. I'm not even sure that I would try drinking that stuff. If your friend can not be preswaded otherwise then at least refilter it though a sterile filter.

Bump for dosages

[BigWilly]

Originally posted by Skyefire
Well it is far less efective. Acetate has a bad oral absorbsion rate compared to the 17a types. But if it is making yoiu sick injecting it then then I wouldn't take it at all. Given that its primo it is probably ether fake or has been tampered with and is now dirty. I'm not even sure that I would try drinking that stuff. If your friend can not be preswaded otherwise then at least refilter it though a sterile filter.

Bump for dosages

I loved the stuff.

Do you not trust Supras gear?

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by BigWilly
I loved the stuff.

Do you not trust Supras gear?

I don't trust most any Var or primo products much because they are the most likely to be altered, bunk or otherwise scamed with. If you have an injectable product that makes you sick when you inject it then something is really wrong.

BTW, out of the 100mg ed your were taking you were seeing less then half of it do to the loss of taking it orally (have heard several numbers, but under 50% is a safe bet.)

[BigWilly]

Originally posted by Skyefire
I don't trust most any Var or primo products much because they are the most likely to be altered, bunk or otherwise scamed with. If you have an injectable product that makes you sick when you inject it then something is really wrong.

BTW, out of the 100mg ed your were taking you were seeing less then half of it do to the loss of taking it orally (have heard several numbers, but under 50% is a safe bet.)

10-4 man.

oh well live and learn :)

btw, I got the primo free, I would never buy the stuff. lol

[jyzza]

Originally posted by Skyefire
I don't trust most any Var or primo products much because they are the most likely to be altered, bunk or otherwise scamed with. If you have an injectable product that makes you sick when you inject it then something is really wrong.

BTW, out of the 100mg ed your were taking you were seeing less then half of it do to the loss of taking it orally (have heard several numbers, but under 50% is a safe bet.)

Supra Primo was tested and so was few others UG Labs that are making it now...all came back w/ very good results.....

And as far as the Supra Primo goes its a quick acting Primo version designed for oral not for IM thats why it hurts....

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by jyzza
Supra Primo was tested and so was few others UG Labs that are making it now...all came back w/ very good results.....

And as far as the Supra Primo goes its a quick acting Primo version designed for oral not for IM thats why it hurts....

Did not know that. I asumed that if he was injecitng it that it was for that. That would explan a few things. I wonder how it is labeled. I still don't know why people would want to take it orally as it is worse cost wise the fina orally.

As far as Supra being tested and all I don't doubt that the maker has a vested interest in making a good product. It is everthing that happens inbetween. I know of one guy that got a batch of Var that left the distubiter at over 95% and ended up around 62% pure powder. it only changed hands twice. So unless you have it strieght from the horses mouth I'd test it.

[BigWilly]

Originally posted by Skyefire
That would explan a few things. I wonder how it is labeled.

it is labeled:

"for IM or Oral use"

[Skyefire]

In that case I stand by what I said the first time.

[Doom]

Ive used it, and I would STRONGLY reccomend using it orally, even though the absortion/mg ratio will not be the same, the pain is beyon anything I could handle

even diluting it with things like eq and steril oil, it feels like test suspension when crysatlizing to the muscle fibers, and the pain was just unbearable, the body parts it was injected into where renedered useless, sometimes up to 7 days, and thats just too long for me not to be able to function 100%, and I also muct ad that no advil would help, I was forced to go on a vicoden kick the days that it was in there just to minimalize the pain

Supra has great products and this is one of them, its just that many people can have a bad reaction, and swelling and imobility of arms, or delts, or where injected can very well occur

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by Doom
Ive used it, and I would STRONGLY reccomend using it orally, even though the absortion/mg ratio will not be the same, the pain is beyon anything I could handle

even diluting it with things like eq and steril oil, it feels like test suspension when crysatlizing to the muscle fibers, and the pain was just unbearable, the body parts it was injected into where renedered useless, sometimes up to 7 days, and thats just too long for me not to be able to function 100%, and I also muct ad that no advil would help, I was forced to go on a vicoden kick the days that it was in there just to minimalize the pain

Supra has great products and this is one of them, its just that many people can have a bad reaction, and swelling and imobility of arms, or delts, or where injected can very well occur

shit, what did they put that stuff into? BTW do you have any reliable numbers on what the absorbsion of an Acetate ester is by chance?

[Doom]

Originally posted by Skyefire
shit, what did they put that stuff into? BTW do you have any reliable numbers on what the absorbsion of an Acetate ester is by chance?

I believe they made it with EO, and Im guessing that an oral acetate esetr could possibly yeild mayve 70% of total mg

this is just a hip shot