Dianabol 2 weeks prior to 16-24 week cycle

[GearTripper]

currently considering a 16-24 weeker. would like to run dbol twice along with oral winny at least once. other AS include TEST @ 800mg/week and EQ @ 600mg/week. not interested in front-loading the injects, but would consider starting the dbol 2 weeks early for a total of 6 weeks at 30mg/day for the first run and then for only 4 weeks the second run 4-6 weeks later. winny should be thrown in for 6 weeks at the end. i'm currently on TRT at 100mg/week so there's no typical PCT needed as i won't be "coming off"... but rather going right back into my TRT. proper anti-e's are ready to go throughout cycle in case of symptoms appearing. i'm counting on the need for nolva at around 20mg/day somewhere after the 6th week as that's when my symptoms typically appear. along with the dbol starting early, i could ramp up the test to about 400mg/week... but don't really want to start the EQ til about the 3rd week at which point, i'll up the test to 800mg. soo far it's looking something like this, give me your thoughts - thnx.

01-06 dbol 30mg/day
01-02 test 400mg/wk
02-16 test 800mg/wk
02-16 equi 600mg/wk
10-14 dbol 30mg/day
18-24 winn 50mg/eod
16-24 test 400mg/wk

24+ TRT = 100mg/wk


HCG i'm thinking 300IU every 4 days throughout cycle.
Nolv - 20mg/day when needed probably around 6th week.
milk thistle daily...

[GearTripper]

i'd also consider a shorter cycle forgetting about the 2nd dbol run, ending everything around 16 weeks and possibly doing a light dbol "bridge".

[Stonecold54]

unless I am missed something why are you not starting everything at once. just wondering. other than that I like the cycle.

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by stonecold54
unless I am missed something why are you not starting everything at once. just wondering. other than that I like the cycle.

i prefer longer cycles, but this is my first with EQ. i'm not sure how my body will react to 20+ weeks of EQ. that's really the only reason why the delay. other then that i could start everything right away.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by GearTripper
i prefer longer cycles, but this is my first with EQ. i'm not sure how my body will react to 20+ weeks of EQ. that's really the only reason why the delay. other then that i could start everything right away.

oh okay. now I see. I have used EQ for an extended time and loved it. but if you want to be careful that is cool, you can never be too safe.

[GearTripper]

another thing... should i run test @ 800 til the end or drop down slowly as above? if so, then should EQ be extended also?

[Skyefire]

given the length of time it take for the EQ to ramp up I would start it with the test. sense your going to do HRT there is no reason to what clears last. just run everthing ( not the orals of course) til the end. Looks good to me just don't plan on trying to cut on the EQ.

[GearTripper]

dbol... 30mg/day divided as such:

10mg at wake with morning shake (30-40min before workout)
10mg 6 hours laters
10mg before sleep


sound good? or would you take more prior to workout?

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by GearTripper
dbol... 30mg/day divided as such:

10mg at wake with morning shake (30-40min before workout)
10mg 6 hours laters
10mg before sleep


sound good? or would you take more prior to workout?

Personally I think it works better if you inject it. I usually inject it before bed (workout in the morning).

Orally that fine. I always question taking the stuff before workouts anyways. makes for a fun workout but we grow when we sleep so I wonder if we shouldn't be taking more at bed time instead of our workouts.

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by Skyefire
...but we grow when we sleep so I wonder if we shouldn't be taking more at bed time instead of our workouts.

very true... now i have something new to think about. how bout 15mg at wake before workout (to utilize the "pump" and other placebo effects) and then again 15mg before sleep for the muscle growth at night. just some ideas to play with.