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i always notice how "newbies" never ask/care about age when other "newbies" are asking about a 1st cycle... why? it's more important then you think for soo many reasons. also, why do most "newbies" offer other "newbies" such crazy cycle advice? 500mg/wk for a first-timer?!?! a lot of the posts here seem like it's the blind leading the blind. i completely understand the number of "posts" doesn't necessarily qualify any user to any degree of "authority" - but on average... i'm seeing such crazy recomendations lately.
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I always like to try to add in the option of 400mg a week. But I have to be honest and say that for my vary first cycle I was shooting 1 amp of sust per week and growing like crazy. some people go high with 500mg, I don't complain too much because a lot of guys use vet and underground stuff so they aren't getting that full 500 anyway. LOLOriginally posted by GearTripper
perhaps there should be a "1st Cycle - Suggestions" STICKY?Comment
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i don't think i have ever suggested above 400mg/wk, maybe 500 absolute highest - ever. i just don't see the point. of course they're gonna grow like a weed at high doses, but at what costs?Comment
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well I will play Devils Advocate (megadeth reference LOL) and say I have gone as high as 1500mg a week and I noticed no difference in sides than lower doses. I grow better off high doses, but I can make gains at low dose. and as always a lot of guys rely on the gear as a crutch instead of an intergral part of the whole bodybuilding experience.Originally posted by GearTripper
i don't think i have ever suggested above 400mg/wk, maybe 500 absolute highest - ever. i just don't see the point. of course they're gonna grow like a weed at high doses, but at what costs?Comment
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I know what you mean. I just had a friend want to take an assortment of things for his second cycle all at ED injections and he can't even inject himself because he passes out from the needle. Then he gets his 18 year old brother on a cycle and after starting calls me up because he has doubts about what someone else told him to do.Comment
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Originally posted by GearTripper
perhaps there should be a "1st Cycle - Suggestions" STICKY?
Stonecold has a sticky that should be passed on to every newbie looking for help unless he already did his homework. If his cycle is well planned out and research was put into it then we are here to help.
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...threadid=15450Comment
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Re: Blind leading the blind?!?!
what would you recomend for a first timer? i think intim is right on. i also belive no one under 21 should use gear even 21 seems young! how much exp. with weights could they have?Originally posted by GearTripper
i always notice how "newbies" never ask/care about age when other "newbies" are asking about a 1st cycle... why? it's more important then you think for soo many reasons. also, why do most "newbies" offer other "newbies" such crazy cycle advice? 500mg/wk for a first-timer?!?! a lot of the posts here seem like it's the blind leading the blind. i completely understand the number of "posts" doesn't necessarily qualify any user to any degree of "authority" - but on average... i'm seeing such crazy recomendations lately.Comment
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one word for the above stated!Originally posted by INTIMID8OR
I concur with Stone
400 TO 500MGS of test a week is solid advise for a first time cycle for many reasons ......
I can take 1 shot of my Delystral and feel it in my nips when I can take 2 shots of QV "For example" And not feel a thing..And I have done this with many other test not just QV .....
When you take that first shot you shut down your own natural test,For somebody to take one shot of underdosed test a week would only set them back and would be much better off with a proper Diet ,Training and creatine than doing a cycle at all...
It's much wiser for us to tell someone to start out with a reasonable dose like 400 to 500 a week than for us to query them on what kind of test they are going to use and to speculate on it proper potency in my opinion ...If your test is 200mgs 2 shots a week=400mg,If its 250 2 SHOTS = 500MG A WEEK .... Simple and effective advise ....I have personally taken 1 shot of test a week trying to coast into my next cycle and found it to be counterproductive to me ...
SOLID!!Comment
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Originally posted by stonecold54
for my vary first cycle I was shooting 1 amp of sust per week and growing like crazy.
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In my case, old formula Omnadren...but same deal pretty much.Comment
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