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[Skyefire]

Originally posted by stonecold54
stupid quick question but is test base what is in suspension?? thanks :D

yes but I recomend putting it into solution. works better.

[Doom]

Im pretty sure its EO, but then again, SUPRA primo was EO, and I couldnt move for a week after using that

here is something for you that might tickle ur taint Skye
Here is some info on QFS Cyclo-Test

QFS has just released its newest Testosterone delivery system, Cyclo-Test I.M., a sterile endotoxin free testosterone complexed cyclodextrin solution. That's right, it is a clear water based solution. Not a suspension, a clear, looks just like water, solution. This is nearing the holy grail of steroid delivery systems.

While the concentration is not spectacular, 50mg/ml due to the increased viscosity of the solution beyond the 50mg point, this delivery system rocks. The ease of loading your needle, the almost 100% pain free injection (you will need to compare it to suspension as the active drug in both cases is unestrified testosterone), places this product in a class of its own. Couple that with the increased serum life of the drug compared to suspension due to the necessary metabolism of the carbohydrate to relase the testosterone molecule and folks we have a real winner here.

This product can bring site injections into the realm of even the most timid of injecters. Never will a needle clog, never will the dose be salightly innaccurate (suspesnions are notorius for this). This is the bomb......KABOOOM.

Cyclo-Test IM, the only commercially cylodextrin complexed androgen for intramuscular use and only available from QFS.

[hitmansb]

QFS also has Cyclo-boldenone and will soon have Cyclo-winny. I will be trying the Cyclo-boldenone VERY soon.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Doom
Im pretty sure its EO, but then again, SUPRA primo was EO, and I couldnt move for a week after using that

here is something for you that might tickle ur taint Skye
Here is some info on QFS Cyclo-Test

QFS has just released its newest Testosterone delivery system, Cyclo-Test I.M., a sterile endotoxin free testosterone complexed cyclodextrin solution. That's right, it is a clear water based solution. Not a suspension, a clear, looks just like water, solution. This is nearing the holy grail of steroid delivery systems.

While the concentration is not spectacular, 50mg/ml due to the increased viscosity of the solution beyond the 50mg point, this delivery system rocks. The ease of loading your needle, the almost 100% pain free injection (you will need to compare it to suspension as the active drug in both cases is unestrified testosterone), places this product in a class of its own. Couple that with the increased serum life of the drug compared to suspension due to the necessary metabolism of the carbohydrate to relase the testosterone molecule and folks we have a real winner here.

This product can bring site injections into the realm of even the most timid of injecters. Never will a needle clog, never will the dose be salightly innaccurate (suspesnions are notorius for this). This is the bomb......KABOOOM.

Cyclo-Test IM, the only commercially cylodextrin complexed androgen for intramuscular use and only available from QFS.

can you send me a list with your prices on it. thanks









:rofl:

[bigpetefox]

Can you drink the Cyclo-Winny? :)

[hitmansb]

Originally posted by bigpetefox
Can you drink the Cyclo-Winny? :)

:rofl:

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by Doom
Im pretty sure its EO, but then again, SUPRA primo was EO, and I couldnt move for a week after using that

here is something for you that might tickle ur taint Skye
Here is some info on QFS Cyclo-Test

QFS has just released its newest Testosterone delivery system, Cyclo-Test I.M., a sterile endotoxin free testosterone complexed cyclodextrin solution. That's right, it is a clear water based solution. Not a suspension, a clear, looks just like water, solution. This is nearing the holy grail of steroid delivery systems.

While the concentration is not spectacular, 50mg/ml due to the increased viscosity of the solution beyond the 50mg point, this delivery system rocks. The ease of loading your needle, the almost 100% pain free injection (you will need to compare it to suspension as the active drug in both cases is unestrified testosterone), places this product in a class of its own. Couple that with the increased serum life of the drug compared to suspension due to the necessary metabolism of the carbohydrate to relase the testosterone molecule and folks we have a real winner here.

This product can bring site injections into the realm of even the most timid of injecters. Never will a needle clog, never will the dose be salightly innaccurate (suspesnions are notorius for this). This is the bomb......KABOOOM.

Cyclo-Test IM, the only commercially cylodextrin complexed androgen for intramuscular use and only available from QFS.

That was because it was just eo, that can be painful.

I've known about the cyclodextrin for a long time, this is not something new at all as it started its life as a nasal delivery system. The problem with this is finding a grade of cyclodextrin that you can inject. U probably noticed that they had to advertise the endotoxin free part for a reason. If I did have acsess to the stuff I would be using the hell out of it, there is no real limet on how much you can take of thsi as it is basically sugar water. So it really wouldn't matter if you had to take 4 cc a day as 90% of that is just water. This stuff can also be made to carry up to 100mg/ml of your base of choice.

BTW, This stuff is really good for bases, orals not as good and esterfied products probably will not wrok at al as they will not fit in the "hole"

If any one ever finds a good n/f or usp grade of the stuff let me know please.

[Reload]

Hey Sky...what do you know about chlorobutanol? I see that's it's the primary bacterostatic used in Delatestryl which seems to be the only other injectable US test product made besides Upjohns Depo.
What are it's advantages over BA and why can't I find it on any chem supply companies list in a solvent form? Seems to only come as a powder.

[Reload]

http://www.thinkerchem.com/cyclodextrin.htm

[Doom]

Originally posted by Skyefire
That was because it was just eo, that can be painful.

I've known about the cyclodextrin for a long time, this is not something new at all as it started its life as a nasal delivery system. The problem with this is finding a grade of cyclodextrin that you can inject. U probably noticed that they had to advertise the endotoxin free part for a reason. If I did have acsess to the stuff I would be using the hell out of it, there is no real limet on how much you can take of thsi as it is basically sugar water. So it really wouldn't matter if you had to take 4 cc a day as 90% of that is just water. This stuff can also be made to carry up to 100mg/ml of your base of choice.

BTW, This stuff is really good for bases, orals not as good and esterfied products probably will not wrok at al as they will not fit in the "hole"

If any one ever finds a good n/f or usp grade of the stuff let me know please.

Hey Im just passing on the what Im finding, I know what to inject, I have no idea what its made from...thats ur dept buddy

[Doom]

Delatestryl is unreal, best enanthate Ive ever used, damn 5ml vials though...its made by BTG

[hitmansb]

Skye, everything I've heard indicates that 50mg/mL is the ideal concentration for bases in cyclodextrin to keep it liquid.

[Skyefire]

Originally posted by hitmansb
Skye, everything I've heard indicates that 50mg/mL is the ideal concentration for bases in cyclodextrin to keep it liquid.

I'll double check that but I think that dazed posted a homebrew for nasal that reanged from 50 tp 100mg test base. let me see if I can find it. There is also a version someware that uses water and glycerol so that might help.

Doom, don't get the wrong idea, I do app the heads up, just irateted that can't get the stuff :mad: . I would love to play with it. I am going to try and find some agin after reading this. This delivery system should be ever bit as good as advertized/

Reload, Chlorobutanol is just a potent perseritive used all over. It is effective at about 1/2% so it is far stronger then ba. On the bad side it provides no solvency or dulution to a poduct and tends to be more toxic over time (debatable) . The plus side is you don't have to use much. Avoid using it for daily shots. If you can get it as a power then I would try and desolve it in BB and just use that.