What to do after being on for a long time??

[2horns]

I have been on for about a year and a half using test as a base the whole time and switching compounds and doses according to goals etc...I am currently trying to figure out what will be the best PCT for me as there are a lot of diff. opinions.

My main question is after PCT, what things might be best for me to keep as much size as possible. I was thinking of slin and creatine to keep some fullness. Just want to hear some suggestions from the guys that have done some cycles similiar to my length. Its kinda scary in a way to know that im coming off and losing size is on the horizon.

[IAMHUGE]

good question......bump.

[Jarconis]

IGF and slin would be best , me thinks.

[Shibby]

Have you used slin before?

[trip]

hcg hcg hcg hcg hcg hcg

Been on a long time, so hpta is shut down, you want it back up asap, hcg hcg hcg, along with other standards

Also, do research and find out from some pro's or folks who have been doing this stuff over a decade, you're looking for expertise, not general board info.

[2horns]

Shibby, no i have not used slin before, but have done research and i know how to run it safely. Thought it might be a good way to keep gains while my body "returns" to normal for a lack of better words.

trip, why would i run HCG after PCT? Unless i misunderstood you. My question was what to do afer PCT to help ease the transition.

[spidey]

HCG is suppressive in its own right and may not be the best choice AFTER a cycle. It would be best to run HCG at 500 IU's ed for the last 2 weeks of the cycle along with nolvedex (20mg ed). After waiting the appropriate length of time (varies with the half life of the steroid you are using) after your last shot, clomid therapy for 3 weeks should do the trick.

I don't know though; you have been on for much longer than was a good idea. The shut-down could conceivably be permanent. About 2 weeks after the end of clomid therapy, have your testosterone levels measured. If they are in the normal range, all is well. If not, you could try more clomid for another 3 weeks and then retest (after 2 weeks to give the clomid time to clear). If that doesn't work, you will probably need HRT for the rest of your life. :(

You can run 50mg ed proviron along with your PCT since proviron does not inhibit your HPTA at those dosages. It is anti-catabolic though and will help preserve muscle mass.

I would stay away (FAR away) from the slin. You may think you know what you are doing but it only takes one fuckup and that shit will kill you and FAST. Why take that kind of risk when you can just take some proviron or HGH (if you can afford it) and keep you gains without risking your life?

[trip]

sorry, yeah read it wrong, hcg for pct

afterwards eat and workout best healthy choices

[Doom]

Originally posted by spidey
HCG is suppressive in its own right and may not be the best choice AFTER a cycle. It would be best to run HCG at 500 IU's ed for the last 2 weeks of the cycle along with nolvedex (20mg ed). After waiting the appropriate length of time (varies with the half life of the steroid you are using) after your last shot, clomid therapy for 3 weeks should do the trick.

I don't know though; you have been on for much longer than was a good idea. The shut-down could conceivably be permanent. About 2 weeks after the end of clomid therapy, have your testosterone levels measured. If they are in the normal range, all is well. If not, you could try more clomid for another 3 weeks and then retest (after 2 weeks to give the clomid time to clear). If that doesn't work, you will probably need HRT for the rest of your life. :(

You can run 50mg ed proviron along with your PCT since proviron does not inhibit your HPTA at those dosages. It is anti-catabolic though and will help preserve muscle mass.

I would stay away (FAR away) from the slin. You may think you know what you are doing but it only takes one fuckup and that shit will kill you and FAST. Why take that kind of risk when you can just take some proviron or HGH (if you can afford it) and keep you gains without risking your life?

I agree 100%...give your body a chance to rebound on its own, its been feeding off what youve been putting into it, there has been little to no natural production of anything going on

HCG, I would go 1000iu eod, for 20-30 days, and I would use clomid and novla together in this case
Proviron rotate in 8 week cycles, and GH, isnt as pricey as once was, so you can use as little as 2iu to perserve

good luck to you, and if you ever plan on staying on that long again, blood work every 2-3 months

[Stonecold54]

Re: What to do after being on for a long time??

Originally posted by 2horns
I have been on for about a year and a half using test as a base the whole time and switching compounds and doses according to goals etc...I am currently trying to figure out what will be the best PCT for me as there are a lot of diff. opinions.

My main question is after PCT, what things might be best for me to keep as much size as possible. I was thinking of slin and creatine to keep some fullness. Just want to hear some suggestions from the guys that have done some cycles similiar to my length. Its kinda scary in a way to know that im coming off and losing size is on the horizon.

hey bro, I was in the same boat. I came off a nearly two year cycle. It is now almost 3 months into my pct and I am just feeling about normal finally. The best part is that I kept most of my gains which I firmly believe is a result of being on so long. I used a combination of HCG, clomid, and novaldex. proviron also helped along with herbal supplements such as MACA and AVENA SATIVA. I am even trying to lose weight and it is hard which is funny because I have never had a problem before losing weight and it has been just the opposite where I normally lose a lot of weight after a cycle.

[2horns]

Re: Re: What to do after being on for a long time??

Originally posted by stonecold54
hey bro, I was in the same boat. I came off a nearly two year cycle. It is now almost 3 months into my pct and I am just feeling about normal finally. The best part is that I kept most of my gains which I firmly believe is a result of being on so long. I used a combination of HCG, clomid, and novaldex. proviron also helped along with herbal supplements such as MACA and AVENA SATIVA. I am even trying to lose weight and it is hard which is funny because I have never had a problem before losing weight and it has been just the opposite where I normally lose a lot of weight after a cycle.

How did you set-up your PCT exactly? Did you use HCG as a part of it or prior to it? What were your dosages of each and for how long? Just so i can get an idea keeping in mind everyone is different. Thanks

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