1st Cycle

[majoradams]

i wouldnt worry bout lookin freakish after one cycle bro. Use the test as a base, and remember pct. What u plan for after the cycle is just as important. Make sure u got plenty of nolva and clomid,specialy if using test.Just keep reading bro and you will figure it out.

[sana]

Originally posted by Slashmonay
im also working with a small frame. i am about 5'4 tall, lol. before i started training i was a whopping 120 lbs and had about a 13% bodyfat. 9 months later, at 137 lbs and 7% bodyfat, im hoping having a small frame doesnt make me look Freakish after doing a cycle, my whole family accuses me of taking steroids already just from natural progress. probably going to go with 250mg/week for 10 weeks of test cyp.

you are entirely too young to do a cycle. in addition, you have only trained for 9 months. there is no way you have hit a plateau. you are not ready because you have yet to learn how to train and how to eat.

you should be posting in other forums right now not here. if i remember you were also asking about GH earlier and you are not ready for that either.

instead of researching steroids, you should be researching nutrition and eating as much as you can.

please tell me, how do you eat? how do you train?

how do you know you've hit a plateau when you've only trained for NINE F*ING MONTHS?

please realize you are only 19, your natrual test levels are at the highest they're gonna be in your whole life. why don't you learn the basics of bodybuilding like proper nutrition and exercise and harness the power of food and grow from that?

[sana]

Originally posted by Slashmonay
if your going to say wait till im older not going to have an impact cuz im doin it anyways

i didn't even see this earlier. this is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. if you are a slow maturer and haven't even grown a beard yet, it means your testes haven't yet kicked your own natural test into full production yet.

if that is the case, and you go fucking around with your horomones now you may risk missing out on your own natural potential by killing your own natural levels before they even come.

you're YOUNG. you've trained for 8 months. you're asking for advice and if we tell you not to do it you're still gonna do it anyway?

give me a break. if you think i'm harsh and you wanna leave, go ahead. leave. we don't need anymore teenagers and morons here who have no clue how to eat, how to train, and how to grow without AAS here to add to the board. then to come back and say "well, i gained 10lbs of on my cycle, now i'm off, i'm 5lbs lighter than i was when i started, what happened??" you wanna know why? b/c ppl change their training habits when they're on, change their eating habits when they're on, and when they come off, they're eating like shit and training like a fucking pussy.

in order to harness the gear, you need to learn the basics first. i'm starting to sound like a broken record. and i will keep going.

UNTIL YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND EAT, AND EIGHT MONTHS AIN'T FUCKING ENOUGH TIME, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO GEAR.

[bigpetefox]

I don't think you were clear enough, Sana.. :rofl:

Basically, if you're intent on doing this regardless of what we have to say about your age/training history, good luck.. I guess next time we hear from you, FOX News will be doing part 2 of their breakthrough steroid scare-tactic, and they'll use you to explain why your nuts never grew back.. :)

Have fun, grow big, Slappy..

[sana]

Originally posted by bigpetefox
I don't think you were clear enough, Sana.. :rofl:

i have lots of practice being a broken record and a nag. i live with bouncer.

[psyko1]

Originally posted by sana
"well, i gained 10lbs of on my cycle, now i'm off, i'm 5lbs lighter than i was when i started, what happened??" you wanna know why? b/c ppl change their training habits when they're on, change their eating habits when they're on, and when they come off, they're eating like shit and training like a fucking pussy.


UNTIL YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND EAT, AND EIGHT MONTHS AIN'T FUCKING ENOUGH TIME, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO GEAR.

:rofl:
Amen sister.

[rtee333]

Really man, at 19 give yourself a chance. Take your 500 bucks and plan yourself 6-8 meals a day with 40-50 grams of protein a meal and WRITE IT ALL DOWN ON PAPER!!! I promise you'll grow. A lot. You really need to exhaust all other options before taking the next step. And no way you've exhausted everything in 9 months. Don't juice to get big, you can do that yourself. Juice to take it to the next level--and i don't think you're there yet.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by bigpetefox
I guess next time we hear from you, FOX News will be doing part 2 of their breakthrough steroid scare-tactic, and they'll use you to explain why your nuts never grew back.. :)

bwahahahahahahahahaha part 2:rofl:

[JUICE]

Originally posted by rtee333
Really man, at 19 give yourself a chance. Take your 500 bucks and plan yourself 6-8 meals a day with 40-50 grams of protein a meal and WRITE IT ALL DOWN ON PAPER!!!

very very true. I would do that, with those 500 bucks order some whey protein what 40-50 bucks for 10 pounds and some vitamins etc. I would also buy me some foods like these.

chicken breasts $8.00 a bag
tunas $.50 a can
yogurts 2/$1.00
Total Protein Cereal $2.33 at target
steaks $5.00-10.00
eggs $2.00-3.00 a 2 dozens or more
stuff like that.


When that all adds up, u got about 50-60 bucks there for 2 weeks of food plus the ones u eat at home. Thats what I do and Im growing like crazy. Recently bought some fish oils and flax oil, some vitamins. Just basic stuff there bro. I guarantee you, you will put on some serious weight there if u got a proper diet. Im not talking about eating what ever, like some people say. I was told by a coach once to eat whatever in size to get big, but HEY "HE SAID WHATEVER" Wrong, U cannot get big my eating snadwiches, burgers, fritos fies, shit like that. You need good foods, chickens, fish, tunas, cheese, milks, meat, yogurts, nuts, high protein foods. Protein is what counts, builds muscle. You also need some carbs there too, but good carbs as to good fats. You dont want the bad ones that will bring problems in the future. But yeah, try that shit out bro, 110% guaranteed that you will put on some weight there. ONE MORE thing, steroids, testosterone, Ghg, arent miricle pills or medicine that will make you huge in 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, even 10 weeks. They will but if you train and diet correctly. I was one of those idiots a few years back in high school which I thought roids would turn me into a superman. Wrong, it takes hard work and dedication. Alone nutrition and diet will make you bigger and stronger but adding roids give you a little more advantage of adding size and mass. Just an edge but not a miricle. But yeah tryo for a year diet right and train right bro and you will see some major progress. Even keep us updated in you progress, take some before and after pics. We are all trying to help as much as we can here and wouldnt want u to hurt urself as in hormone wise and all.

[bigpetefox]

You can get big from burgers, think my avatar looks that way because of tuna? :D :rofl:

[JUICE]

Originally posted by bigpetefox
You can get big from burgers, think my avatar looks that way because of tuna? :D :rofl:

hehehehe. I love burgers but when I used to bulk up before I would gain big time but alot of fat with it. It was like my muscles grew but with no definition. With tuna, Ive seen awesome growth, never ate 4 cans a day before. Now I grow leaner.:D Been loving it so far.

[bigpetefox]

4 cans a day? Geez, I eat at least 3 cans in one sitting.. They hate me at my Stop&Shop, at least $50 in canned goods.. :P

[JUICE]

Originally posted by bigpetefox
4 cans a day? Geez, I eat at least 3 cans in one sitting.. They hate me at my Stop&Shop, at least $50 in canned goods.. :P

same here i usually buy 40 bucks worth at atimes and people see me like wtf. Hey Pete, aint too much tuna bad.:(

[majoradams]

I agree with sana, If i new the guy had only trained for 9 f***kin months i wouldnt have posted b4. Slash, like they have said, there is no way u could have plateaued in that amount of time, besides the fact you are only 19 and your body is still growing anyway. Give it more time, put your $500 in the damn bank or buy some damn eggs. You would be very surprised what you can acheive naturally, just stick with it, keep training, It aint easy for anyone, just dont stop no matter what. And dont take what we say here to heart, we're just tryin ta look out for each other.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by majoradams
And dont take what we say here to heart, we're just tryin ta look out for each other.

well said bro. I try to give the best advice possible;)