First Cycle - Would this work?

[nyc777]

I'm doing my first cycle, and after going over it with a friend he suggested:

Trenbol 75 - For 4 weeks - Twice a week
Testosterone - For 4 weeks - Once a week (im not sure which kind i should use though)

He suggested HCG as I come off the cycle

Not looking to bulk at all, just gain some speed, and get hardened. I kickbox competivley so im not looking to bulk much, since that would slow me down. I was looking at a 4 week quick cycle just to give me a quick edge, nothing long term. I'm wondering:

1) What would the correct doses and ammounts be that i would need?

2) What else do i need to take to counter the side-effects, and to protect myself?

3) I figure the Trenbol will cut and rip me up, as the Test will add a little size. Is that assumption correct?

4) Anything that i should know, or has anyone tried this before?

Any suggestions? Thanks!

[Skyefire]

Re: First Cycle - Would this work?

Originally posted by nyc777
I'm doing my first cycle, and after going over it with a friend he suggested:

Trenbol 75 - For 4 weeks - Twice a week
Testosterone - For 4 weeks - Once a week (im not sure which kind i should use though)

He suggested HCG as I come off the cycle

Not looking to bulk at all, just gain some speed, and get hardened. I kickbox competivley so im not looking to bulk much, since that would slow me down. I was looking at a 4 week quick cycle just to give me a quick edge, nothing long term. I'm wondering:

1) What would the correct doses and ammounts be that i would need?

2) What else do i need to take to counter the side-effects, and to protect myself?

3) I figure the Trenbol will cut and rip me up, as the Test will add a little size. Is that assumption correct?

4) Anything that i should know, or has anyone tried this before?

Any suggestions? Thanks!

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...threadid=15450

but to answer your questions, no that isn't really going to work at all.

First of all you would need to run this 6 weeks at least.

Second your not running enough and/or the right kinds. Tren must be taken at least every other day. Any test that you want to run for only 4 to 6 weeks is also going to be an EOD shot. (test prop is the best option.

3rd. Prop and tren will cut you up, bulk you up, do both, or do nether depending on your DIET. You don't need tren for your first cycle anyways. too strong for the first one. Prop and dbol will cut you up nicely or even just test cyp for 8 weeks would be better. Your results on gear are a funtion of your diet, not the drug. some are better then others for certain things but diet is the end all for it.

4th I have tried a 4 week cycle before and its too short. 6 weeks is all right ( I like them) if you use the short esters (fina, prop, orals) but thats it. test cyp, eth, and the like should be ran for 8 to 12 week IMO and the long esters (deca, EQ, neotest) should be ran for 12 to 16.

You need to do a lot more research here.

[dbol]

this is what i would do:
get a shit load of 200mg equipoise.
Preload 1000mg the first week and then run it at 400mg per week for the next 15 weeks.
If you dont' want masss then stay away from test. and tren is too advanced for someone with you goals.
start hcg on week 15 and run it for 21 days.
and make sure you have plenty of nolvadex for the pct.
good luck.

[ROCKETW19]

Re: Re: First Cycle - Would this work?

Originally posted by Skyefire
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...threadid=15450

but to answer your questions, no that isn't really going to work at all.

First of all you would need to run this 6 weeks at least.

Second your not running enough and/or the right kinds. Tren must be taken at least every other day. Any test that you want to run for only 4 to 6 weeks is also going to be an EOD shot. (test prop is the best option.

3rd. Prop and tren will cut you up, bulk you up, do both, or do nether depending on your DIET. You don't need tren for your first cycle anyways. too strong for the first one. Prop and dbol will cut you up nicely or even just test cyp for 8 weeks would be better. Your results on gear are a funtion of your diet, not the drug. some are better then others for certain things but diet is the end all for it.

4th I have tried a 4 week cycle before and its too short. 6 weeks is all right ( I like them) if you use the short esters (fina, prop, orals) but thats it. test cyp, eth, and the like should be ran for 8 to 12 week IMO and the long esters (deca, EQ, neotest) should be ran for 12 to 16.

You need to do a lot more research here.

#3 i get that every fuckin day what drug will cut me up i try to tell them it depends on your diet more than the drug but they dont understand. everyone thinks steroids are mirical drugs. WRONG.

[BigTexan]

The test will only be kicking in at 4 weeks. Also, you should start with something "safe" like test for a first cycle

[majoradams]

Dont use tren on your first fuckin cycle

[Technics]

Originally posted by dbol
this is what i would do:
get a shit load of 200mg equipoise.
Preload 1000mg the first week and then run it at 400mg per week for the next 15 weeks.
If you dont' want masss then stay away from test. and tren is too advanced for someone with you goals.
start hcg on week 15 and run it for 21 days.
and make sure you have plenty of nolvadex for the pct.
good luck.

What are the results to an EQ only cycle with minor changes in diet? never seen any feedback on this.

How safe is it compared to just Test?

[Cannons]

Originally posted by Technics
What are the results to an EQ only cycle with minor changes in diet? never seen any feedback on this.

How safe is it compared to just Test?

I've known people to put on 20lbs of lean mass at 500mg Eq ew /combined with 50mg proviron ed for 12 weeks. The proviron was in case of libido problems, but I believed it also helped free up some test toward the end of the cycle. No side effects whatsoever. Intense hunger, pumps and vascularity.