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[coyotejhn]

Any one have any thoughts on this product

[Rottweiler]

...use the search option, there are several threads on this.

[r_deese]

Originally posted by Rick Morrow
...use the search option, there are several threads on this.

apparently u didn't even look at the forum... nearly half the posts in the supplements section are about m1t... look there

[RUI-Products]

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[therock]

Didnt want to make another thread for this. But I am now trying alternatives for aas as some may know all ready. My question is since I used aas b4 how should I run m1t to get the best results, as far as dosage wise. Newbies dont tell me diet is the key because I know that already. I have used Test e,sust,tren,deca,dbol and some others in the past. I have recently been off for about 4months now and dont want to go back. But I want enough dosage to actually gain from it. Reason I dont know the answer to my question is because I didnt care about prohoromones b4. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[spidey]

All the prohormones are now just as illegal as AAS, M1T included.

M1T is harsh but effective. I gained 10 lbs in 3 weeks on 15 mg ed (with a good diet of course). I tried 20 mg ed after that but the sides got to be too much. Lethargy, sexual disfunction, irritability; I just felt like shit and it took me forever to recover.

[Pumpdogg]

Rock m1t is a steriod, always was when it was legal and always will be now that it is illegal. Like spidey said it does work great, but it can be real harsh. I did real well stacking it with 4ad still suffered from lathargy, but that is common.

One warning, it screw up your liver values, so you may want to be check b4 and after to see how you do. Allot of people think that it is just HYPE but for me it does affect my values as I have been tested regulary for sometime now since I take HRT. Just food for thought for you.

If you are going to use m1t IMO you should continue to use tried and true aas which are less harmful and are just as illegal.

PD

[therock]

Yeah I would use real aas, but I am subject to doping test now so m1t is my only option unless I run test suspension. It just aint worth it to risk my judo career for a better body. See my goal now is to stay under 198lbs but get leaner and leaner. My weight class is 180-198lbs. Unless you know of anything else that's pretty much my only 2 options. My diet is up to par, trust me bro. I just want extra srength while staying around the same weight and I have to be flexable and be able to move fast.

[spidey]

VAr would be a better option IMO. M1T isn't known for huge strength gains anyway and var will give good strength and it isn't as liver toxic. As an oral, it's halflife is short too so doping tests aren't as much of a problem as with longer acting AAS.

[therock]

I know about the var but it last 3wks in the system. I would be guessing when they would be testing. But if I did do this what you think about this.
Test suspension 75mg ed for 5wks
Anavar 30-40mgs ed for 5wks
PCT Nolva and Clomid
Reason for running suspension only 5wks is because anytime after that would be only water. 5wks is perfect for suspension cause if your diet is in check you will still stay lean and if you noticed the dosage is low aswell. Let me know what you think Spidey.

[spidey]

Looks OK to me. I think any of the orals will last about the same time as far as doping tests go and var is definitely going to be superior to M1T.

[therock]

I dont want to gain that much weight I just want to get more strength while getting leaner, you think this is a good cycle for what I want? Also I would get off for another 5wks and maybe do it again for 5wks if it works for what I want. Let me know Spidey the pros and cons of running it like this, thanks bro.

[spidey]

Cutting or bulking is more a function of diet than the drugs. You can cut or bulk on anything.

Assuming your diet is good and your cardio and strength training is on, it sounds like a good stack to me. The var won't bloat you (although the test might a bit). Var is good for strength and water free mass gains that are more easily kept than some other AAS. I think you should start seeing strength gains by the end of the first week and the veins should start popping out too.

[therock]

Good to know Spidey and yes the diet is up to par. What would be the best anti/e for suspension? I know the estrogen is the worst of any test. I was thinking arimidex and proviron.

[spidey]

Personally, I wouldn't even use the test suspension. The var at 40 to 50 mg ed will give you all the strength you need and might even give you some extra mass in spite of the cutting diet and cardio. Plus, you don't have to stick yourself every day. Test suspension isn't as anabolic or androgenic as test esters and I hear it hurts to shoot too.

If you just stick with the var, there is no need for any anti-e's but if you choose the test as well as the var, arimidex would be better than proviron IMO.