Sex Question

[shortz]

Originally posted by goliath
test is the king of gear. the only reason a person would not include it in a cycle is because they simply don't know any better, period.

I am going to disagree with you. I think that it is totally goal oriented. For a BBer and strength athlete, test is most likely the best. But, there are some circumstances in which test may not be good.

Also, I think that this would be a good discussion to have. I am neither for, nor against the use of deca and eq together. Why would you say they are not to be used together?

[Bouncer]

All steroids are derived from testosterone. Its only a slight change in the chemical structure that makes them different. So for you to say that "you dont know why people insist that they need test" is just wrong. Test should be at the base of any cycle no matter what your goals. Also, the reason you or friend is having trouble in the sack is because you dont have any test in your cycle. You can do and think what you want and continue to have problems like these, im just stating the facts.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by shortz
I am going to disagree with you. I think that it is totally goal oriented. For a BBer and strength athlete, test is most likely the best. But, there are some circumstances in which test may not be good.

No matter what your goal, test should be at the base. Weather it be low dose or a high dose for powerlifters and bodybuilders it should always be a base.

[zbig]

Ok Ok Ok,

i will reccomnd Test and prob use it myself.

The question is :

Is it too late to run test now ? 1/2 way through the cycle.

Also which test to run ??? I would like to know the lightest test, ie the one with the lightest sides (like hairloss).

And can it be run at a looow dosage, just to get it in the cycle ? something like 200 - 250 mg week for the rest of the cycle ?

[checkoutmyrapp]

Can i just ask a question, why would you run deca without test. I don't know about you but I would not like it if my dick would not get hard for about 2 months. Granted you are worried about hairloss, but if I remember right don't all steroids cause baldness. I could be wrong but I might hsave read that somewhere.

[Viral]

Originally posted by zbig
Fair enough.

Just a quick question which is the safest, lightest, ( least sides for hairloss, etc) test a person can do ?

Anyway doing searches I do see many people who say they have succesfully ran an eq only cycle, some of them throiugh a little winny in the mix.


Are you saying that an eq only cycle will provide no benefit. I hear that the gains are minimal, but they are gains and they are kept. I also hear that you get virtually no sides with an eq only cycle.


Did / does anyone hear no of anyone who ran an eq only cycle ? and what were the results ?

If u wanted a cycle with minimal gains that would be kept, ud be just as good if not better off with Anavar. ;)

Anyway ur cycles not bad, but test rlly should be the base of every cycle.

[JUICE]

just add some test bro, i love test

[dbol]

listening to zbig is like listening to a fucking fat chick concerned about the size of her ass. Someone please can this guys membership until he does some research on gear. His questions are just too stupid.
No you can't start test in the middle of your cycle or the cycle police are gonna pound your ass!
You can start and stop anything you like at any time day or night, so stop asking stupid questions and do some research. You know? put your little fingers on the mouse and click on the google search engine. Also, tell your alter ego buddy that cums too fast to jerk off before sex instead of telling you his lammo stories.

[uuugeboy]

Ok bros. This guy is obviously new to the game. We were ALL new to the game at one point or another. Let's stick with recommendations and contructive criticism. If we don't, we'll end up like other boards that enjoy flaming newbies and others and will soon find our membership dropping and our reputation destroyed. Personally I like this board and would like to see it remain where it's at and keep growing. I'm sure the bouncer would agree.

As far as an answer to your question zbig, yes you can start test now and run it until the end of your cycle. I don't assume to know what week you're currently on, but make sure your PCT is properly planned out way before your last cycle week. As far as choices of test, it's pretty much up to you and how many jabs you want per week. One test over another doesn't necessarily indicate sides, it's more of how much test you're running. You could finish out with 100mg of Prop ED or EOD, you could use cyp at two injections per week 200mg/ml or enanthate at one injection per week at 400-500mg/ml. This is just a basic outline and these dosages are low to low-medium. If you're in the latter stages of your cycle, personally I would stay with a fast ester such as prop. You're probably not ready for ED jabs so I'd take 100mg/ml EOD. Your sex drive should come back.
Test or something with a test base should be the foundation of every cycle.
Certainly ask questions, but definitely also do your part in researching what you can with the resources that are available to you. Good luck.

[shortz]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
No matter what your goal, test should be at the base. Weather it be low dose or a high dose for powerlifters and bodybuilders it should always be a base.

I agree, but what I was disagreeing with was the general statement that everyone should use test no matter what. Why would a runner want to use test? What about a swimmer or a gymnist? What about world champion Bocce ball players? Or even those freaks of nature that play Chess?

[zbig]

Thanks for the answers,

DBOL:

Its jerk-offs like you who should be banned. The purpose of these boards IS to ask questions. A dumb question to you might not be dumb for someone else. If you know all the answers then why are you a member ?

[checkoutmyrapp]

I think what happens is that people sit there and read questions sometimes that they have seen the answer to a hudred times and they get mad because that is why there is a search and they just start blasting people, forgetting that we are here to help people. I wouldn't get all pissy about it, give it time you will see the same questoin you asked in about a month by someone else and you will be like what the hell is wrong with this kid??? Didn't he search it.

[goliath]

Originally posted by shortz
I agree, but what I was disagreeing with was the general statement that everyone should use test no matter what. Why would a runner want to use test? What about a swimmer or a gymnist? What about world champion Bocce ball players? Or even those freaks of nature that play Chess?

the decision to use test has nothing to do with the sport you are interested in and more to do with balancing out androgens and trying to keep equilibrium in the body (at least somewhat if 1000mg of gear can be considered equilibrium, lol). but common sense should tell you that running a drug like deca that will shut down natural test production would need to be supplemented with testosterone, right?

zbig: this late in the game, i would run prop. a longer ester will take to long to produce optimal blood levels.

[shortz]

Originally posted by goliath
but common sense should tell you that running a drug like deca that will shut down natural test production would need to be supplemented with testosterone, right?

Again, test is not always the answer. Hcg can be implemented to keep test levels from being shut down...wouldn't that be even better than test, considering test still shuts you down, which isn't really solving the problem, it is only making it worse for post cycle. Test is simply going to prevent you from having a lack of sex drive from no test, but Hcg would solve that.

[goliath]

Originally posted by shortz
Again, test is not always the answer. Hcg can be implemented to keep test levels from being shut down...wouldn't that be even better than test, considering test still shuts you down, which isn't really solving the problem, it is only making it worse for post cycle. Test is simply going to prevent you from having a lack of sex drive from no test, but Hcg would solve that.

HCG is a very misunderstood drug, bud, and i'm not to sure that you have a very firm grasp on its use. to suggest that HCG alone is enough to combat the side effects of a heavy androgen cycle is just plain stupid.

besides the obvious, what you are suggesting is like robbing peter to pay paul. natural test is shut down so you administer HCG to get the testes producing test again. Great. LH is still suppressed, though now even further, so when you stop HCG, you crash even harder. what you are suggesting makes no sense at all.