Sex Question

[shortz]

Originally posted by goliath
HCG is a very misunderstood drug, bud, and i'm not to sure that you have a very firm grasp on its use. to suggest that HCG alone is enough to combat the side effects of a heavy androgen cycle is just plain stupid.

besides the obvious, what you are suggesting is like robbing peter to pay paul. natural test is shut down so you administer HCG to get the testes producing test again. Great. LH is still suppressed, though now even further, so when you stop HCG, you crash even harder. what you are suggesting makes no sense at all.

Hcg would be adminstered before testes are even shut down. You don't just use it when you think they are shut down. Yes, you do get negative feedback from LH, but LH recovers MUCH faster than the testes. This is also not to say that you would skip all PCT either. It has been proven that recovering from LH is much easier than recovering testes.

Also, studies have shown that Hcg has brought back HPTA even when someone has been on long term test use. I see no reason why it wouldn't work for short term reasons.

Just the same, you are getting shut down harder by adding test, so why is that better than "robbing peter to pay paul"?

[goliath]

Originally posted by shortz
Hcg would be adminstered before testes are even shut down. You don't just use it when you think they are shut down. Yes, you do get negative feedback from LH, but LH recovers MUCH faster than the testes. This is also not to say that you would skip all PCT either. It has been proven that recovering from LH is much easier than recovering testes.

Also, studies have shown that Hcg has brought back HPTA even when someone has been on long term test use. I see no reason why it wouldn't work for short term reasons.

Just the same, you are getting shut down harder by adding test, so why is that better than "robbing peter to pay paul"?

ok.

[shortz]

Originally posted by goliath
ok.

Something tells me you don't agree with me. :D I think the only way that we could be sure of anything is to test both theories. I am a bit stubborn about some things, but I don't want anyone to be pissed either. For now, until someone tries it, we will agree to disagree.

[goliath]

Originally posted by shortz
Something tells me you don't agree with me. :D I think the only way that we could be sure of anything is to test both theories. I am a bit stubborn about some things, but I don't want anyone to be pissed either. For now, until someone tries it, we will agree to disagree.

lol - honestly, i don't disagree with everything that you are saying. i'm just not in a debating mood, and i'm kinda busy. but you do make valid points and i'm glad that you pointed out that most of what we are debating are simply theories...

[Puma]

EQ only

I have a friend that ran a light EQ only cycle. Was 200mg/2X/week, if I remember correctly.

Did not see much in the way of growth. Lost a little BF, but that could have been as a result of diet. The only thing that we both noticed about the EQ was the insane veins he started to get through his arms and chest. He was pretty low BF to start with, but he just got frieky looking on the EQ. Stamina seemed to go way up as well (cardio).

Other then that, I would have to say it was a bit of a dissapointment.. He finished out that cycle and then ran a Test/EQ shortly afterwards.. Did much better on that, although did not have that crazy ripped look to him.

I understand that EQ stimulates EPO, which in turn makes more red blood cells. Anyone know if this is the reason people get so veiny on that shit?

Good luck.

Puma/Ripped

[goliath]

Re: EQ only

Originally posted by Puma
I understand that EQ stimulates EPO, which in turn makes more red blood cells. Anyone know if this is the reason people get so veiny on that shit?

Good luck.

Puma/Ripped

yes, blood volume and RBC increases significantly. so much that my doctor comments on it every time i'm on eq and she does blood work, lol.

[blm]

Re: Re: EQ only

Originally posted by goliath
yes, blood volume and RBC increases significantly. so much that my doctor comments on it every time i'm on eq and she does blood work, lol.

lol...I get the same thing from my doc, but that is just from small doses of test, not eq.