Plano West thing on AAS

[Bdubb]

I finally saw the TV program about the buy who committed suicide in Plano West after coming off of AAS. This is the kid whos dad was on her a year or so ago getting into it with some people over the use of AAS.

In the show they described how Taylor was given an anti depressant. I lost three friends to suicide in my last 2 years of HS and two of them had their anti-d's ruled as the reason for their suicides. It just raises the question if the boys Dad looked into this or if he just jumped on the bandwagon and strickly blamed the use of AAS.

I also found it interesting how the show referred to steriods and called Deca HARDCORE. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I never thought of Deca to be hardcore.

Oh well, just thought I'd give some of my thoughts on the program that I saw last night.

[leanandmean]

people use AAS as ascapegoat for this type of shit docs dont want to admit the stuff the prescribe does more harm than good with certain people

[Bouncer]

A parent cant accept that maybe he or she is part of the reason for there son's death. They had to find a reason and steroids was that reason. The kid was on anti-depresents, his father pressured him into sports and the kid had showed signs of being mentally unstable even at a young age. But in the fathers mind, its steroids that killed him.

[Bdubb]

Suprisingly, the Father did admit in front of the camera that he held some of the blame. Not sure of the wording, but thats what it came out to. It was the shrink that was so set on the AAS use as his reason for depression.

They also said his note read sorry for hurting you guys or something like that. So, it sounded to me that he felt bad that he had put his family in a bad spot by him stealing things and so on, when he was grounded he thought about it all and was depressed enough to take his life.

[wakejunky]

I do agree with The Bouncer. I'm fortunate enough to be a Father and to this day don't understand why parents blame everything on other situations or people. Maybe he is a little late to take any blame. I guess this is another situation that shows us why everybody here and those on the way need to educate themselves. Before vommiting out alot of ignorance.

[goliath]

regarding anti-dep's, major drug companies, and consumers: there is a book called "everything you know is wrong" that talks about a lot of these and the proven dangers that go long with these drugs. our government is firmly in the pocket of major pharmaceutical companies and anyone who thinks otherwise is blind. wyeth-ayerst, the maker of a painkiller called duract, put enough pressure on the FDA to get the drug approved in spite of the research proving it's liver toxicity. the drug was pulled from pharmacies 10 months after it's release due to mounting reports of fatal liver damage. GlaxoSmithKline has been reprimanded 14 times for misleading consumers about the drugs flonase and flovent. 14 times! all these companies get is a wagging finger and a slap on the wrist from the fda - they should be shut down and seriously investigated. however, that will never happen due to all of the funding these companies provide our elected officials. they funded both parties with a combined $18.6 million during the 2000 election. that would be a heafty pay-cut if the government were to do anything about it.

lol...damn...i didn't mean to go off on that rant. my point is that anti-depressants could very well be a MAJOR contributing factor to these suicides, but we would never know it.

[Bdubb]

I want to try and find out what anti-d the kid was on.


I took some a few years back after being all kinds of messed up in the head and I can say that it was worse stopping them after a few weeks than it was before them.

[Bdubb]

Here's the original post.

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ghlight=taylor

[joe bigboy]

i get sick and tired of ppl blaming everything that happens on steroids, putting a blame on AS is just an easy way out of looking at the real problem

[goliath]

i took paxil for a while and that shit was freaky. i had no feelings at all. no remorse, no anger, no sadness, no happiness...i was like a robot. just blank.

[Scrumhalf]

I think kids are way over-medicated. Attention deficit disorder, anti-depressants, there is a new term coined every day for some other "problem."

Hell, my family immigrated from India and I don't know of anybody who was on medication as a kid for mental/behavioral stuff. And the number of wackos were far less.

I think the medications are making problems worse because parents, instead of doing good parenting which is their job, just pass the buck to the doctors to prescribe the magic pill to control whatever aspect of their kid's behavior they don't like.

[Bdubb]

My parents magic pill was to smack the sh!t out of me. I could say that for the most part it worked wonders.

[beefcake]

Originally posted by Scrumhalf
I think the medications are making problems worse because parents, instead of doing good parenting which is their job, just pass the buck to the doctors to prescribe the magic pill to control whatever aspect of their kid's behavior they don't like.

Actually it's CPS is the problem. Parents these days aren't allowed to disipline their kids. The good ole ass kickings of the old days are no longer allowed, even though they proved to be the most effective. Your kid skips school, who goes to jail? You do. Your kids acts up, gets thrown in juvy, guess who gets to pay the bill? You do. $80 a day worth. So what option do parents have now? Medicate the little bastards. That'll keep his ass out of trouble. Only problem now is that it's side effects are suicide.