Andreas Munzer

[majoradams]

Does anyone know the true story behind the mans death? I heard when they cut him open his stomach was full of blood

[DOUBLE J]

I wish you luck because I am of that era and never know for sure myself?

[Bouncer]

This is all I could dig up.

he was using a drug (not sure which) that increases the thickness of the blood to promote a super compensation of glycogen in the muscles (to fill out during competition); somewhat like blood doping. His flight back to Germany caused dehydration (which long flights do). After landing he began drinking fluids and (I'm not a doctor, so I don't know how these factors led to his death) with his dehydrated state and very thick blood his liver basically disinegrated. I guess in his state if it wasn't the liver than something else would have gone -- he was basically a dead man walking at that point.

First his liver, then his kidney and to be continued his heart failed. After all this, his stomach was filled wis blood and he died. He refused a blood transfusion. Why? Don't know ... but I think, it was almost to late to bring him back.

Probably Erythropoeitin (sp) also known as EPO also known as Epogen. A genetically engineered version of the protein hormone formed by the kidneys that stimulates formation of red blood cells.

I was talking to someone who knew Andreas and they also said he was taking EPO before his death. As well as blood pressure medication and the numerous other drugs pros have to use today to stay in contention.

[majoradams]

Do you know how long between the time he landed and the time his heart failed?

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by majoradams
Do you know how long between the time he landed and the time his heart failed?

I dont think anyone really knows when exactlly his heart failed. His whole system basiclly failed.

[Puma]

EPO..

I am a big fan of pro cycling, and EPO is a huge drug for them. Because it increases your red blood cell count, it allows for feats of endurance that are somewhat superhuman..

However, there are many reports of people dying from this drug. 2 Dutch cyclists died recently, and everyone who uses large amounts of that drug is taking huge risks.. I understand that most people have to sleep on heart monitors to make sure that their BPM does not drop too low and just kill them. They are woken up if they drop below 40 BPM or something like that.. And you have the problem that your blood does not pump very well because its so damn thick..

I had actually never heard of this drug being used for BB, but it does make sense.. Equipoise has a similar (much weaker) effect on hemocrit if I am not mistaken, and from seeing people on it the veins get pretty freaky..

Puma

[canadagold]

Munzer was taking aminoglutamide (also known as cytadren) which is a potent anti-strogen but also more importantly a potent CORTISOL blocker. . the body needs a certain amount of cortizol to function properly and the reason his insides basically turned to liquid was that he had no cortisol in his system. A certain amount is needed by the body to retain cell function and structure.
no doubt he may have been taking epo etc but the cytadren was cited as being the main cause. . .

[Bouncer]

cytadren still made today?