"Test only" as my first cycle

[Crex]

Hi all. I'm planning my first cycle, which I probably won't be doing for a while, and have a couple of questions:

First I'm 23 years old, 205 pounds at ~10% BF, and have been training for about 5 years.

That being said I've decided to run test only for my first cycle. Here's what I've come up with so far:

wk 01-12 - test (cyp or enan) @ 400/500 (haven't decided) mg EW
wk 03-12 - HCG @ 250 iu E3D

wk 15-18 - Clomid @ 100 mg ED
wk 15-18 - Nolvadex @ 20 mg ED

This is by no means set in stone, so if you feel I'm doing something wrong, please feel free to correct me.

The only thing I'm wondering about is the use of letrozole (Femara) or anastrozole (Arimidex/Liquidex); I know some prefer to run it throughout the entire duration of their cycle when they know themselves to be prone to bloating, but since this is my first cycle and I have no idea how my body will react to test, do you think it would be a good idea to simply have it on hand but not actually use it until I start to bloat? I mean using it throughout would of course stop bloat from occuring, but I wouldn't know how sensitive I am to bloating unless I let myself bloat a lilttle for my first cycle, you know what I mean?

Also, can letrozole/anastrozole work to combat gyno as well? I know Nolva is usually used for gyno, but I read that one shouldn't take letro and Nolva together. So should I opt instead for anastrozole and use it in combination with Nolva, or is letrozole only enough to fight off gyno?

Alright I know I asked a lot of questions, I'm just trying to make my first cycle (especially the PCT) go as smoothly as possible and avoid any unnecessary mitakes. Thanks for your help! :)

[Stonecold54]

Re: "Test only" as my first cycle

Originally posted by Crex
Hi all. I'm planning my first cycle, which I probably won't be doing for a while, and have a couple of questions:

First I'm 23 years old, 205 pounds at ~10% BF, and have been training for about 5 years.

That being said I've decided to run test only for my first cycle. Here's what I've come up with so far:

wk 01-12 - test (cyp or enan) @ 400/500 (haven't decided) mg EW
wk 03-12 - HCG @ 250 iu E3D

wk 15-18 - Clomid @ 100 mg ED
wk 15-18 - Nolvadex @ 20 mg ED

This is by no means set in stone, so if you feel I'm doing something wrong, please feel free to correct me.

The only thing I'm wondering about is the use of letrozole (Femara) or anastrozole (Arimidex/Liquidex); I know some prefer to run it throughout the entire duration of their cycle when they know themselves to be prone to bloating, but since this is my first cycle and I have no idea how my body will react to test, do you think it would be a good idea to simply have it on hand but not actually use it until I start to bloat? I mean using it throughout would of course stop bloat from occuring, but I wouldn't know how sensitive I am to bloating unless I let myself bloat a lilttle for my first cycle, you know what I mean?

Also, can letrozole/anastrozole work to combat gyno as well? I know Nolva is usually used for gyno, but I read that one shouldn't take letro and Nolva together. So should I opt instead for anastrozole and use it in combination with Nolva, or is letrozole only enough to fight off gyno?

Alright I know I asked a lot of questions, I'm just trying to make my first cycle (especially the PCT) go as smoothly as possible and avoid any unnecessary mitakes. Thanks for your help! :)

first off that looks like a good cycle. I would leave out the anti-aromotases for this cycle (letrozole/anastrozole). use novladex only if you need to for gyno. other than that it looks like you are good to go and I will just say that I appreciate your post because it is well researched, well thought out and follows good grammar. Good luck to you.

[Deez Nuggets]

The 1st AAS newbie post i've read in sometime that is actually worth a response. Very pleased you included your PCT too.

Cycle looks great for a 1st timer, your stats look good to so you're obviously doing something right naturally.

I would skip on the anti-aromotases for this cycle.

Good luck, you'll definitely benefit from this.

[hitmansb]

Cycle looks great....and I agree with holding off on anti-aromatases...

BUT

I'd have some extra Nolvadex on hand just in case. And if you find out that you are getting itchy/puffy/sensitive nipples, hop on the Nolva right away and order yourself some letro at that point. It's fine to use letro and nolva together...it's just unnecessary after awhile (say a week) of taking the letro because your system will be so low on estrogen that the Nolva will be a waste. But if you're one of those lucky people that isn't prone to gyno, you'll find that out fairly quicly and will be able to relax and just enjoy the gains. Good luck.

[CreepingDeath]

looks like a good simple, yet effective first cycle

[JUICE]

nice

[shortz]

Looks like someone has actually done some reading. Good looking cycle. I agree with 6the others though. I only use AIs when necessary.

[Cmsmallzz]

Looks good Bro...The only question I have is why not start your PCT 2 weeks after your last shot instead of 3. I guess it depends on whether you choose Cyp or Enathate since they have slightly different durations of activity. But I would start it sonner if it were me. Just a thought.

[Doctor T]

Enan: I would start Clo 2 weeks after...

600mg first day...100mg thereafter

AI's should be avoided if possible...in some ppl they may increase estro sensitivity in future cycles. I don't see why you would encounter an estrogen problem that nolv couldn't handle unless you've experienced something even in absence of supplemental test in the past.

Good luck and have fun.